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Personal thoughts here: what Trump said (if one is to believe the media) does not sound like a "crime" to me. It didn't sound threatening or pressuring; however, it was highly improper for him to make a remark like that. You just don't. Comey took the notes of the meeting, which included that statement. I don't think anything will come of it unless there is other evidence out there that Trump was using coercion or threats to make anyone in the FBI uncomfortable about doing their job.
Trump's request did not happen in a vacuum.
Trump made his request to Comey to "...let this go, Flynn is a good guy" after the White House was informed that Flynn was interviewed by the FBI and after Deputy AG Yates immediately informed WH Counsel McGahn that Flynn is open to blackmail based on his statements and his "underlying behavior".
So unless McGahn did not inform Trump of his conversations with Yates, Trump knew Flynn was in serious trouble and there was the possibility of Flynn spilling any potential beans.
There is more, much more, to come. Comey was doing what any good prosecutor does, building his case for obstruction of justice by Trump. When he had enough, he would take it to the proper higher authority.
I wonder what makes Donald Trump so important to his loyal followers despite Trump's history of fraud and deception? Why is anyone loyal to this person? Why do they love him?
This is a serious question.
A few reasons:
1. Some people love to be dominated and only feel good when there is someone appearing to dominate.
2. Some people have their own authoritarian streak and love that "style". They think it's cool, until it goes to far and they clash (seeing this in his administration).
3. Some people are just very destructive. They are bitter about certain things and, powerless as they are, can do nothing about it. Seeing some person come in who vows to trainwreck the country, insult the people they think are the cause of their misfortune, and are "famous", just thrills them to no end.
Personal thoughts here: what Trump said (if one is to believe the media) does not sound like a "crime" to me. It didn't sound threatening or pressuring; however, it was highly improper for him to make a remark like that. You just don't. Comey took the notes of the meeting, which included that statement. I don't think anything will come of it unless there is other evidence out there that Trump was using coercion or threats to make anyone in the FBI uncomfortable about doing their job.
Theres nothing illegal about hoping he would drop the investigation but not ordering him to drop it. It would make for a loss in confidence in comey and the start of the thought process of firing him. That he wasnt loyal to trump. Again nothing illegal but to ask it would put comey in a tough spot.
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Comey ruined his credibility when he stated how guilty Hillary was and did not hand it over to a grand jury and let them decide if Hillary should be charged for obstruction of justice, =deleting evidence while under investigation and lying numerous times to the FBI.
Trump ruined his credibility over a long period when he chose to place himself in the public eye and reneged on contracts, stiffed contractors, ran bogus schools, etc., etc., etc.
If Trump committed such a crime in front of him, it would be an impeachable offense along with a criminal offense. It would be insanity to allow a POTUS to sit for possibly years more while waiting for a Russia investigation that would almost assuredly be circumstantial at best.
You can try to rationalize it that way if you choose, but it will come down to either Trump committing a crime and Comey ignoring it or Trump not committing that crime.
It is up to congress to determine if Trump committed a crime not Comey. He may have very well reported this behind close doors to congress but since this is all part of the Russian investigation that may not be the case.
Comey ruined his credibility when he stated how guilty Hillary was and did not hand it over to a grand jury and let them decide if Hillary should be charged for obstruction of justice, =deleting evidence while under investigation and lying numerous times to the FBI.
You keep bringing up the James Comey / Hillary Clinton deflection, but you never answer the question: why, if she is so guilty, and if all of the evidence is still sitting in files at the FBI, and if the statute of limitations hasn't expired, then why is Attorney General Jeff Sessions sitting on his thumbs instead of indicting Hillary Clinton?
Let's assume for a moment that Trump used his position as POTUS to tell the head of the FBI to stop the investigation of Flynn. Lets say the memo details that. It would be a crime.
Now, why didn't Comey report that crime? Why would he wait until after he lost his job to report it?
You know that if he testifies that Trump committed this crime, Comey will be asked why he didn't immediately take it to the DOJ. Since the accusation, the POTUS forcing the FBI to stop a criminal investigation of a high ranking official, is extremely serious, what could be the justification for inaction?
The only testimony Comey could make without making it look like he agreed to not pursue Flynn is that Trump did not pressure him; otherwise, it would appear as though he made a deal and backed out only after he was fired.
Because he was building a case? Trump asked him not to keep investigating... he didn't actually obstruct it until he fired him.
I'm pretty sure Comey has not overlooked anything here.
He's not Trump.
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It is the word of Comey against the word of trump. Case closed.
For you.
Don't think that's a legal precedent though.
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