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Old 06-08-2017, 04:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Yes they are.

And it's entirely self-inflicted. They clearly earned their big defeat last November. Let's see if they're capable of learning from that electoral drubbing.

I wouldn't bet either way.

Well, we already know Maxine Waters seat is in big jeopardy.

Omar Navarro, running in the 43rd California District Is taking a big bite there.
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Well, we already know Maxine Waters seat is in big jeopardy.

Omar Navarro, running in the 43rd California District Is taking a big bite there.
No way this guy wins in a majority Democrat district, it would be a long shot, and when I look him up on Google, it is only right wing sites like InfoWars saying he's close to unseating her.

I would believe a primary challenger would beat her before a Repub
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Old 06-08-2017, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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This is pretty early for a full court press.

It will be a long slog to the next election.
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Old 06-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
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You really need to find a new tune. No, Sanders would not have won; that is nothing but wishful thinking on your part.
Sanders would have won Wisc, Michigan and Pa. Unless you can dispute that, Sanders wins.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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And liberals have been calling us racists, misogynists, and uneducated poor white trash in response, for six months now
Yep. And many of them haven't figured out that namecalling, insults, and angry protests are only going to make their opponent grow stronger and more steadfast. We aren't going to sway towards their way of thinking just because they're throwing a tantrum and calling us racists. Quite the opposite.

If liberals swing even further to the left, with all the SJW identity politics stuff in the next election, then its just going to result in an even bigger loss for them. America has grown sick of their garbage.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yep. And many of them haven't figured out that namecalling, insults, and angry protests are only going to make their opponent grow stronger and more steadfast. We aren't going to sway towards their way of thinking just because they're throwing a tantrum and calling us racists. Quite the opposite.

If liberals swing even further to the left, with all the SJW identity politics stuff in the next election, then its just going to result in an even bigger loss for them. America has grown sick of their garbage.
Correction, less than 30% of America has "grown sick" of what you call garbage😒
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:15 PM
 
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Correction, less than 30% of America has "grown sick" of what you call garbage😒
Well that 30% proved to be enough to win an election, and that was before the bulk of the obnoxious behavior of the left. To continue to bring up the whole "The majority of Americans didn't vote for Trump" thing is moot. When you account for all the people that don't vote, then basically no president ever had the "majority" of the nation's vote.
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:18 PM
 
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Democrats must reconnect with the white lower and middle classes, especially in the rust belt.

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Amen
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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well that 30% proved to be enough to win an election.
bingo!!!!
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:39 PM
 
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DT being elected was the "great white hope" and last gasp of the conservative, cranky white persons and religious right. They are hoping and praying the next four years will see changes pushed through that will cement their views of how America should be regardless of subsequent occupants of the WH.


Should this not happen, and or things otherwise do not go according to plans then that is it; game will be largely over. Again demographics are simply not on the conservative/GOP side. Their core base is aging and dying off. What is more their children or grandchildren are no where near the numbers needed to continue their "movement". That is even if they themselves support such ideals, and a good number do not.


None of this even touches the fact large parts of GOP strongholds are depopulating. From upstate New York right on down through Appalachia and onto the Rust Belt things are changing.
You don't seem to be accounting for the fact that as people age, they often become more conservative. Many of these liberal millenial hipsters of today might be conservative a decade or less from now. It happened with me and it happens every generation. By contrast, not a whole lot of people go from conservative to liberal (although now that I've said that, people will now magically claim that they became more liberal).

A lot of the GOP states are gaining population rapidly though. North Carolina, Georgia, Texas, Utah, Arizona etc. These are growing far faster than CA or the northeast. If illegals are legalized, or if we let in too many immigrant bought off voters then demographics for the GOP are done, its over, put a stake in it. Otherwise I'm feeling confident.
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