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I think people estimated Hillary's popularity to be greater than it was simply because Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were popular.....
Obama was not popular by 2016 with the working class and middle America. That is why Democrats were devastated in the US House, US Senate, and state government, and governor's houses. (aside from losing the presidency)
Bill Clinton was irrelevant. He had a hard time getting 100 people to show up at his campaign events.
Anyone who saw this knew Trump was going to send Hillary to the pasture. I said it time and time again on this forum for over a year.
Biden said that Hillary was "never a great candidate" and that she lost, because of her own doing.
He didn't mention Russia.
He also thinks that Mitt Romney should run for US Senate out of Utah.
Interesting to see Biden continue not to jump on the Democratic finger pointing bandwagon as he is rumored to be considering a 1 term run in 2020.
I've seen a couple of clips of Biden talking about why Clinton lost and he was mostly on point. He's probably about one of the only few prominent Dems that sorta gets it. Clinton is running around blaming everyone but herself for the most part. She's throwing out sexism, Comey, which is BS because to me it looked like Comey was bending over backwards to not make her look bad.
She missed the boat on the war on terror, immigration and a few other things as well.
Her saying that half of Trump supporters were deplorable certain didn't help for the people that were on the fence. I get that Trump has said a lot of stupid stuff as well, but her comment really is an indicator that she's an out of touch DC elite that doesn't frankly have a grip on the average man's plight in this country.
The economy, affordable health care, a secure border, getting terrorism under control, those are things that probably matter more to a lot of people. Some of the more progressive stuff like gender issues and bathrooms and stuff like that just doesn't really fly with most people, just not at the level that anyone really at the end of the day feels is that important.
She was not campaigning in New York or California or Massachusetts, she was fundraising, something both Democrats and Republicans do in states they can not win or will win by a mile.
Arguing that she should have spent more time in the other 3 states is fine, but the comparison argument doesnt work because context matters
Yes, most, but not all of those Hillary "Goldman Sachs" Clinton events in CA, MA, and NY were fundraisers for the well-to-do.
However, Hillary did have regular campaign spots in CA, MA, and NY. Hillary ignored Wisconsin - she didn't even step foot in the state once post-convention.
Hillary was an idiot.
Hillary made horrible choices in managing her campaign.
She had regular traditional campaign events with the masses in CA, MA, and NY - but none in Wisconsin. Hillary was the first major presidential candidate since 1972 to not visit Wisconsin. Even Stein and Johnson hit Wisconsin. She barely hit Michigan and PA post convention too.
She:
(1) ignored visiting the Rust Belt swing states except Ohio
(2) disparaged blue collar white voters that fear the loss of their jobs
(3) ignored local democrats that begged her to give an economic message to blue collar white voters
(4) ignored data from local democrats that the race was close there and she was losing blue collar white voters
Hillary literally told state of Michigan leaders that they were wrong that the state was close, that they needed to literally throw out all of their polling data that said it was close, and that they could no longer contact her - she would contact them, since they were paranoid that Michigan was close, when she was going to easily win it and keep the blue collar white vote.
Clinton would defeat Biden in the 2020 Democratic primary.
If the DNC rigged it for her again and gave her debate questions in advance.
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