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Amazing how the liberal media isn't covering their new referendum that's happening today in Puerto Rico where they're going to vote AGAIN on statehood. It seems like statehood is becoming more and more popular but if this referendum passes, Congress should NOT allow Puerto Rico to be a state.
- The American flag looks perfect the way it is now
- Puerto Rico is a very left-wing place politically. Allowing them to be a state means that the Democrats will have a permanent advantage in the Electoral College and in Congress as the new Senate and House seats allotted to them will be filled by Democrats. Puerto Rican voters are also susceptible to the Democrats' racial politics and stand in racial solidarity with illegal Mexicans and Central Americans in favor of illegal immigration and things like the Dream Act and illegal alien amnesty.
- This will be adding another non-English speaking area to the U.S. and will undermine efforts to make English the official language of America
- Yes, Puerto Ricans will have to pay federal taxes if they're a state but they are an economic basket case and will receive far more in federal funds than they pay in. It will be a financial black hole for the American taxpayer, a large version of Detroit, Chicago, Newark or the Bronx.
I truly believe this is a ploy by liberals and Democrats to gain and hold power. THey've tried to push for Washington DC to be a state for a long time and have failed and now they want to try with Puerto Rico. Because the left moving Democrat Party can no longer appeal to the average American, they have to resort to these games.
Though I'm open to allowing Puerto Rico to be a state in exchange for New Jersey or California leaving and taking their electoral votes and Congresional representation away.
Amazing how the liberal media isn't covering their new referendum that's happening today in Puerto Rico where they're going to vote AGAIN on statehood. It seems like statehood is becoming more and more popular but if this referendum passes, Congress should NOT allow Puerto Rico to be a state.
- The American flag looks perfect the way it is now
- Puerto Rico is a very left-wing place politically. Allowing them to be a state means that the Democrats will have a permanent advantage in the Electoral College and in Congress as the new Senate and House seats allotted to them will be filled by Democrats. Puerto Rican voters are also susceptible to the Democrats' racial politics and stand in racial solidarity with illegal Mexicans and Central Americans in favor of illegal immigration and things like the Dream Act and illegal alien amnesty.
- This will be adding another non-English speaking area to the U.S. and will undermine efforts to make English the official language of America
- Yes, Puerto Ricans will have to pay federal taxes if they're a state but they are an economic basket case and will receive far more in federal funds than they pay in. It will be a financial black hole for the American taxpayer, a large version of Detroit, Chicago, Newark or the Bronx.
I truly believe this is a ploy by liberals and Democrats to gain and hold power. THey've tried to push for Washington DC to be a state for a long time and have failed and now they want to try with Puerto Rico. Because the left moving Democrat Party can no longer appeal to the average American, they have to resort to these games.
Though I'm open to allowing Puerto Rico to be a state in exchange for New Jersey or California leaving and taking their electoral votes and Congresional representation away.
1) Is the stupidest response I have ever seen to this issue.
2) Most Puerto Ricans who support statehood are actually Republicans. Jennifer Gonzalez, Johnny Mendez, and Thomas Rivera Schatz are all Republicans.The word "progressive" in New Progressive Party has nothing to do with the mainland connotation of the word.
3) English is already an official language in Puerto Rico and most people people speak English reasonably well
4) How is this any different than the White trash states down South and in Appalachia? Or are those states different just because they are populated by White people? The biggest drains on the Federal Treasury are those solid, red Republican states. Not inner cities, not Puerto Rico.
I suggest you learn the facts before you pipe up. Turn off Fox News, maybe even visit Puerto Rico on vacation. It might surprise you. It's hard to believe, but once upon a time I felt the same way as you ... and then I actually went to Puerto Rico and learned the facts as the facts are.
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Amazing how the liberal media isn't covering their new referendum that's happening today in Puerto Rico where they're going to vote AGAIN on statehood. It seems like statehood is becoming more and more popular but if this referendum passes, Congress should NOT allow Puerto Rico to be a state.
- The American flag looks perfect the way it is now
- Puerto Rico is a very left-wing place politically. Allowing them to be a state means that the Democrats will have a permanent advantage in the Electoral College and in Congress as the new Senate and House seats allotted to them will be filled by Democrats. Puerto Rican voters are also susceptible to the Democrats' racial politics and stand in racial solidarity with illegal Mexicans and Central Americans in favor of illegal immigration and things like the Dream Act and illegal alien amnesty.
- This will be adding another non-English speaking area to the U.S. and will undermine efforts to make English the official language of America
- Yes, Puerto Ricans will have to pay federal taxes if they're a state but they are an economic basket case and will receive far more in federal funds than they pay in. It will be a financial black hole for the American taxpayer, a large version of Detroit, Chicago, Newark or the Bronx.
I truly believe this is a ploy by liberals and Democrats to gain and hold power. THey've tried to push for Washington DC to be a state for a long time and have failed and now they want to try with Puerto Rico. Because the left moving Democrat Party can no longer appeal to the average American, they have to resort to these games.
Though I'm open to allowing Puerto Rico to be a state in exchange for New Jersey or California leaving and taking their electoral votes and Congresional representation away.
This post comes off as intolerant, and advocating for a conservative one party country
Besides, the population of Puerto Rico is 3.4 million. That would only give them 5 seats in the house, or 7 electoral votes. They wouldn't be another California 😒
Puerto Rico should not be granted statehood until it would rank, upon entry, in the top 20% of US states in credit rating.
Its a basket case economically. Let it fix that itself before any consideration is given to statehood.
^ this is a reasonable response with a goal that we can work towards. I applaud you for being reasonable instead of babbling like a Fox News loon
I've consistently said that the debt/fiscal crisis needs to be addressed before statehood. Today is just a beginning. We'll get there ... but first we have some things that need to be fixed.
This post comes off as intolerant, and advocating for a conservative one party country
Besides, the population of Puerto Rico is 3.4 million. That would only give them 5 seats in the house, or 7 electoral votes. They wouldn't be another California ��
But those 5 seats in Congress can flip Congress and give the Democrats a majority. That would be more seats than Alaska, Wyoming, and I believe North Dakota and Montana have. I used to live in West Virginia and it has 5 electoral votes. So if Puerto Rico votes for the Democrat, if will cancel out the 5 electoral votes in West Virginia which typically votes Republican on the national level.
7 electoral votes can also make or break a presidential election.
Puerto Ricans are also liberal on issues like gun control, taxes and are likely to support Obamacare which most of us do not believe in. There is a culture of dependency in Puerto Rico very similar to what you see in the inner cities and among Bernie Sanders's base. Puerto Rico also has a serious problem with violent crime and drugs as well.
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But those 5 seats in Congress can flip Congress and give the Democrats a majority. That would be more seats than Alaska, Wyoming, and I believe North Dakota and Montana have. I used to live in West Virginia and it has 5 electoral votes. So if Puerto Rico votes for the Democrat, if will cancel out the 5 electoral votes in West Virginia which typically votes Republican on the national level.
7 electoral votes can also make or break a presidential election.
Puerto Ricans are also liberal on issues like gun control, taxes and are likely to support Obamacare which most of us do not believe in. There is a culture of dependency in Puerto Rico very similar to what you see in the inner cities and among Bernie Sanders's base. Puerto Rico also has a serious problem with violent crime and drugs as well.
Please, I live in the "inner city" and supported Sanders in the primary (couldn't vote, because I was out of town that day), and I don't have a "culture of dependency"
What is you preferred alternative? The current half-in status or full independence?
Judging by his comments he probably supports the "CUTS EM LOOOSEE!!!!!!!!!!!!! LEECHING FREELOADERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!" brigade that knows nothing about Puerto Rico other than what they see on Fox News or remember from The West Side Story.
It's so funny, they claim to be defenders of democracy, the US Constitution, etc but then want to cut Puerto Rico loose against the wishes of 90% of Puerto Ricans. It's so bizarre. If they truly loved this country they would take the pragmatic, reasonable approach advocated by BobNJ1960. Conservatives have to accept that not everyone in this country thinks like they do, and that it doesn't make anyone less American for disagreeing with them.
Puerto Rico should not be granted statehood until it would rank, upon entry, in the top 20% of US states in credit rating.
Its a basket case economically. Let it fix that itself before any consideration is given to statehood.
so you equate in having representation for the laws that governs you to economical status or credit rating?
should we kick out of the Union states that are poor or have poor credit ratings ?
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