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View Poll Results: Knowing what you know now, would you have served, if called?
Yes 39 45.88%
No 37 43.53%
I am not sure. 9 10.59%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-12-2017, 08:49 PM
 
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If it is a just war like Afghanistan, yes. Iraq, no. War on ISIS, no.
Afghanistan wasn't just.

ISIS... that is our fault playing nation builder. We destabilized the region and allowed a power vacuum that's allowed ISIS to do their thing.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Gone
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People also have a duty to the nation to be critical of pointless conflict.

We're not supposed to be drones to the powers that be.
True, and I have time and time again, but when we are young and patriotic we follow in our forefathers footsteps and I would remind you that soldiers do not get to pick the wars they will fight in and many soldiers back in my day did protest after they got out, hence part of the pressure that got us out of a war we should have never gotten into.
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Hindsight being almost perfect sight...

The draft ended 4 years before I was eligible to serve. Had I been drafted, as a person obedient to authority back then, had I been drafted, I most likely would have gone.

As a middle age adult, knowing what I know now, about the draft, about the war, and about my country, I'd probably would have been like Ali and refused to be drafted.

I think this is probably one of the major reasons that older people are not drafted - they are more likely to tell the board to go to hell.

But I am curious about what others think... If you had been drafted at a young age, but knowing all the things you know now, would have served when called?
Looking back don't cut it.When I was a pup in 69 you freaking better have your draft card on you or it was jail.The only way to get that card was to register when you turned 18.It was no stupid game back then like our country is now.You can't compare then to today. We were the Sons of WW11 vets and admired our parents uncles etc . Today hell you can be a boy today and a female tomorrow or just be lazy and be gender fluid.The Country is crazy today.Lots of normal people left but we keep to ourselves.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Not a chance.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Afghanistan wasn't just.

ISIS... that is our fault playing nation builder. We destabilized the region and allowed a power vacuum that's allowed ISIS to do their thing.
Why wasn't it just? The government wouldn't handover a known fugitive in Osama Bin Ladin. What else should we do? We couldn't let 9/11 go in vein.

ISIS is partially our fault as well. I agree with that. The problem is as we wanted to pull troops, these issues continued to pop up.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:17 PM
 
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I was drafted and served. Also, I was lied to by the government and treated as less than human. Like the wars since then, Vietnam was based on a lie.
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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I DID serve.

I wasn't called; I volunteered.

But I was never sent to Nam. I was no hero and I never saw combat.

Still...

Chickenhawks like Cheney, tRump, McConnell, Nugent, Romney, Limbaugh, Gingrich and others can kiss my grits.

Yellow bellied sap suckers.

See how you conveniently forgot our peace prize winning Prez, 2000 additional Americans dead, then he went into Libya, Syria, Yemen, then back in Iraq. Additional men women and children killed in 100s of cruise missile attacks. Most hypocritical peace prize winner ever
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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But then you people roast right winger who DID serve ......Bush did serve.....not even worth going any further.....

Which president has killed more? bush or obama?




I want you to prove this, backed up with something other than some left wing rag.....Don't tell me to google it....prove what you've stated....hell, if you and the left can find ted's deferment, you should be able to find and show some paperwork wright.....
I know...no America hating black man would serve his country, right?

https://www.biography.com/.amp/peopl...ight-jr-299586

https://www.truthorfiction.com/jeremiah-wright/

Where were your boys Bush and Cheney?
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Old 06-12-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Texas
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See how you conveniently forgot our peace prize winning Prez, 2000 additional Americans dead, then he went into Libya, Syria, Yemen, then back in Iraq. Additional men women and children killed in 100s of cruise missile attacks. Most hypocritical peace prize winner ever
Thanks for sharing.

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Old 06-12-2017, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I didn't want to be drafted, so I joined the US Army when I was 19. This was in 1957. Would I do it again?Sure, I'm of the generation that believed we had a duty. As far as cassisus clay, he is a draft dodger.
What duty is that? Most Wars are about resources serving Corporate interests. As for Ali? He didn't want to kill a fellow human being in Vietnam for some crazy right wing ideology that thought Communism was really going to destroy America.

Wars are profitable go ask Dick Cheney.
Love of country is the BS they sell to you at a recruiting office! Thankfully I went to college.
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