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You miss the point on two main issues:
1) Dividing the population between "law abiding citizens" and "criminals", is misleading as far as firearms go. There are a gazillion people that aren't the classic "criminal" type yet they pose great danger with firearms. People that suffer from mental issues, anger, alcoholism. People bearing a grudge against coworkers and neighbors. Basically all unbalanced individuals shouldn't carry weapons. Kids are also in the same category.
2) The fact that some law or regulation doesn't sit well with background checks. That is a technical problem not a fundamental one. The suspicion that random searches by the authorities will be performed in people's homes....Basically you can give a free reign to your imagination on everything.
As an aside, the biggest concern with millions of firearms in everyone's hands, is the possibility of a civil war. You saw that guy that came to shoot republicans in DC. These are the people who should never own weapons (with or without second amendment).
HAHA and you think this stupid law will stop people who want to go on a rampage with a gun? It's hard to stop someone who doesn't care if they die. They can try bombs, guns, cars, fires, knifes, and so forth. There are many ways to kill people. I find it rather amazing that current terrorist or people who go off the deep end haven't gotten more creative considering they are infinitely many more ways to kill people than there are ways to protect people.
People obey the laws because their are consequences such as jail, fines, execution, or other forms of punishment. However, when the individual is willing to die, then those consequence have no baring on the person committing the crime.
This law does very little to prevent criminals from buying weapons. Buying an illegal gun is easier and faster than getting your driver license at the DMV. In a LA, you can find people selling illegal drugs or weapons. If you have the money, you can buy any weapon that you want, from a hand pistol to a fully automatic weapon. Obviously, the automatic weapon will cost a lot more, but if you have the money you can buy it. I'm certain, in NY there are places where you can find such people that sell you any weapon that you want for the right price.
Granted, anyone who can buy a gun legally doesn't need to buy illegal weapons. There was a guy who bought a weapon on the black market, a hand gun. Turns out, this hand gun had been used to kill a police officer. The guy who was carrying the gun was top on routing traffic violation and the gun was found. Ballistic analysis confirmed the gun was the same used to kill a police officer a few years ago and the guy got something like 20-25 years in prison. He was a ex nam vet that got involved with gang life. What is ironic of this story is the farther of that guy is involved in selling of illegal weapons and drugs. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
HAHA and you think this stupid law will stop people who want to go on a rampage with a gun? It's hard to stop someone who doesn't care if they die. They can try bombs, guns, cars, fires, knifes, and so forth. There are many ways to kill people. I find it rather amazing that current terrorist or people who go off the deep end haven't gotten more creative considering they are infinitely many more ways to kill people than there are ways to protect people.
People obey the laws because their are consequences such as jail, fines, execution, or other forms of punishment. However, when the individual is willing to die, then those consequence have no baring on the person committing the crime.
This law does very little to prevent criminals from buying weapons. Buying an illegal gun is easier and faster than getting your driver license at the DMV. In a LA, you can find people selling illegal drugs or weapons. If you have the money, you can buy any weapon that you want, from a hand pistol to a fully automatic weapon. Obviously, the automatic weapon will cost a lot more, but if you have the money you can buy it. I'm certain, in NY there are places where you can find such people that sell you any weapon that you want for the right price.
Granted, anyone who can buy a gun legally doesn't need to buy illegal weapons. There was a guy who bought a weapon on the black market, a hand gun. Turns out, this hand gun had been used to kill a police officer. The guy who was carrying the gun was top on routing traffic violation and the gun was found. Ballistic analysis confirmed the gun was the same used to kill a police officer a few years ago and the guy got something like 20-25 years in prison. He was a ex nam vet that got involved with gang life. What is ironic of this story is the farther of that guy is involved in selling of illegal weapons and drugs. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.
Not in NY. Once Cuomo passed the safe act all ours went missing tragically memorial day weekend in boating accidents.
An assault rifle is a barreled weapon that launches one or more projectiles, often driven by the action of an explosive force caused by pressure during the discharge of ammunition.
An assault rifle is a barreled weapon that launches one or more projectiles, often driven by the action of an explosive force caused by pressure during the discharge of ammunition.
This is a topic that really needs to be examined closely. On the surface and in particular to uninformed voters where these measures have been put to ballot, it sounds like a good idea. Just "common sense." A simplistic way to keep criminals from buying guns not just from licensed dealers, but from anyone. However it's NOT that simple and overlooks some very important issues that I have to date not seen addressed.
Allow their stupidity to work in your favor, demand something in return if they they think this will solve problems. They always talk about compromise so let's compromise....
Offer a background check under following conditions:
Performed at the gun dealers shop, it's instant and should take no more than 5 minutes.
Small fee to cover the service, about $5 and it can only be charged once annually.
Other than the gun shop that sold the gun no records will be retained by the government. If they want records they will need a warrant for those at the gun shop.
Does not apply to private sales.
In return demand nationwide reciprocity for concealed carry.
We could do better by banning all muslims from entering the country with that logic. Why would dems support people like moslem terrorists owning arms?
Liberals ideas of should, might, maybe could. Difi stuff right there.
What democrat supports gun ownership by Muslim terrorists (or any terrorist)? Never heard that before. But according to the gun lobby, yes, Muslim extremists can also benefit from the second amendment. After all, they oppose background checks. I personally don't want any Muslim extremist to own guns. He can visit Allah without firearms. Gun ownership should be limited to responsible and balanced adults.
If something is hard to do it is not worth doing, right? I mean it is only the lives of human beings we are talking about here.
There is something seriously wrong with the current system, it is easier to legally purchase an assault rifle than to get approved to be an Uber driver.
LMAO indeed. I feel a twinge of amusement at these flippant responses anti firearms rights types come up with, right before the annoyance kicks in. Hard to do? It's impossible. Totally and completely unenforceable. There is just no way to force the issue of requiring background checks on private sales. None. Now if somebody wants to have one done on someone they are selling a gun to the option is there. It's always been there. You can pay a licensed dealer to do the sale. But REQUIRING they do so , how will the state know if you sold one of your guns? They have no clue who has what. And actual criminal sales...has the meaning of the word "criminal" changed while I slept last night?
There will be no more live saved by pushing these laws to the point they can actually be enforced. We will be surrendering a whole lot of both the second and fourth amendments however. But hey, you won't be one of those who are giving anything up will you. Having to allow state enforcing agencies into your home demanding you produce your private property for their scrutiny.
There is nothing wrong with the current system. It works just fine and does not violate peoples right to privacy. As to infringement on the right to keep and bear arms, there's not enough time or space here to cover a fraction of that. Other than to say the biggest and worst of the lot are very large urban centers with the laws being municipal an are hardly better than outright bans. And still their violent crime and shooting deaths are astronomical. Chicago needs to change their name to Chilujha.
But you have reaffirmed my conviction that the anti 2A position is true to its timeless talking points that are emotionally driven and based on propaganda and misinformation.
It's a term that really only applies to military full auto long guns which are designed specifically to kill humans. I believe it was Feinstein who labeled the AR15 carbine an "assault weapon" and it stuck with the anti-gun crowd.
I play baseball and use a bat made by Louisville Slugger, if I hit a person with it it becomes an "assault bat". When I go to the beach I walk over rocks, if I throw them at people they become "assault rocks"... an AR15 isn't an assault rifle until it is used to hurt or kill a human, but even then it's actually just a rifle used to assault, same as the bat and rocks.
It's a backwards term to instill fear.
It is a modern day hunting rifle.
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