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View Poll Results: Which party is the party of KKK?
Democrats 94 74.60%
Republicans 30 23.81%
I don't know. 2 1.59%
Voters: 126. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-22-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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And which local party, across the many locations that this fight is happening, is backing the pro-Confederacy love-a-thon?
Republicans, but I'm not so sure it's worth talking about at this point.

I'm personally all for bringing in regional distinctions within parties. I'd love if we all had the intellectual maturity to talk about the parties and recognize differences from region to region or state to state. Those distinctions reveal a reality in politics that we'd all do good to recognize, but look around this forum; do you actually trust the majority of these people to follow that?

I think many of the people on this forum couldn't handle introducing that much nuance into their tiny little. I mean, people like the OP view Republicans vs Democrats as if it's Good vs Evil. Do you really think you can have a conversation with him about the difference between Democrats in rural Texas vs Democrats in urban Texas?
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Personally, I think most of the statues should go, but there are many Republicans who see it as erasing history.

Are you seriously comparing someone who says the statues are historically relevant to someone who literally stood in front of the doors to a school to keep out black students?
"Erasing history..." How many statues do we have up for Loyalists who backed the British during the Revolutionary War? Or for the Native and Black soldiers who backed the British during the War of 1812? That's as much history as the CSA's treason.

And I'm more than happy to compare someone who was twice sued by the Federal gov't for refusing to rent to Black applicants in the 80s to that guy who blocked Black students from getting into their schools.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Republicans, but I'm not so sure it's worth talking about at this point.

I'm personally all for bringing in regional distinctions within parties. I'd love if we all had the intellectual maturity to talk about the parties and recognize differences from region to region or state to state. Those distinctions reveal a reality in politics that we'd all do good to recognize, but look around this forum; do you actually trust the majority of these people to follow that?

I think many of the people on this forum couldn't handle introducing that much nuance into their tiny little. I mean, people like the OP view Republicans vs Democrats as if it's Good vs Evil. Do you really think you can have a conversation with him about the difference between Democrats in rural Texas vs Democrats in urban Texas?
The first step to that honest discourse is being honest about who one's party really is. People can't in one breath claim that there's a such thing as RINOs while using the next breath to claim that b/c a party shares the same name as a party from 70 years ago, they are the same political ideology.
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:49 PM
 
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"Erasing history..." How many statues do we have up for Loyalists who backed the British during the Revolutionary War? Or for the Native and Black soldiers who backed the British during the War of 1812? That's as much history as the CSA's treason.

And I'm more than happy to compare someone who was twice sued by the Federal gov't for refusing to rent to Black applicants in the 80s to that guy who blocked Black students from getting into their schools.
You do realize it was DEMOCRATS who put those statues up right?
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Old 06-22-2017, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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You do realize it was DEMOCRATS who put those statues up right?
And REPUBLICANS are fighting to keep them up. So if your position is that the Democrats, who were racists, put them up... what does that make the REPUBLICANS who are trying to keep them up...
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:00 PM
 
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And REPUBLICANS are fighting to keep them up. So if your position is that the Democrats, who were racists, put them up... what does that make the REPUBLICANS who are trying to keep them up...
Because, at a point, they become historic.

Do you think statues of Julius Caesar in Italy should be torn down?
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Hey OP. lifeexplorer. Do you think any of the current KKK members today are democrat?

I'll wait. Doubt I get an answer, though.
Yes.
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Because, at a point, they become historic.

Do you think statues of Julius Caesar in Italy should be torn down?
So racist Democrats put up racist statues for an event that happened 100 years earlier = racists

Not-racist Republicans fight to keep racist statues for event that happened 150 years earlier = historians

Am I picking up what you're putting down...
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:10 PM
 
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So racist Democrats put up racist statues for an event that happened 100 years earlier = racists

Not-racist Republicans fight to keep racist statues for event that happened 150 years earlier = historians

Am I picking up what you're putting down...
The statue of Robert E Lee in NOLA was put up in 1884.

It was there for 133 years.

Once again, should statues of Julius Caesar be removed in Italy?
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Old 06-22-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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The statue of Robert E Lee in NOLA was put up in 1884.

It was there for 133 years.

Once again, should statues of Julius Caesar be removed in Italy?
Tear down Mount Rushmore!!!
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