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Any ideas about what would happen to retirees like 90 year old Alice Jacobs of Orange, Virginia if she is forced out of her county nursing home due to proposed Medicaid cuts? For those without family..... (in the NY Times article below) She once owned a factory and horses, but her funds are exhausted.
Maybe churches would help find a place for her to live? But needing the services that a nursing home provides, that seems complicated or beyond reach.
Medicaid Cuts May Force Retirees Out of Nursing Homes
Does anyone realize this is a year old thread? Now, for all those who believed what a stupid blog had to say, tell us, how many seniors do you know who have been forced out of long term care so far? Any btw, they are not called nursing homes anymore, they are "long term care" facilities.
Any ideas about what would happen to retirees like 90 year old Alice Jacobs of Orange, Virginia if she is forced out of her county nursing home due to proposed Medicaid cuts? For those without family..... (in the NY Times article below) She once owned a factory and horses, but her funds are exhausted.
Maybe churches would help find a place for her to live? But needing the services that a nursing home provides, that seems complicated or beyond reach.
Medicaid Cuts May Force Retirees Out of Nursing Homes
fear and hate mongering is down to a science as used by the democrats.
Twist comments to the worst possible, least probable scenario and pretend it is a foregone conclusion.
Paul ryan is pushing grandma off a cliff.....again!
Meanwhile fraud, inefficiency and gross waste of directed taxpayer money is not worth pursuing. Having had a recent experience with medical transport paid for by medicare, some watchdog group or investigative reporter would do well to look into that scam.
Our federal and state programs are bleeding cash and it is not even on anyone's radar. Stupidity demands that more taxpayer cash be extracted to make up for the irresponsible stewardship of federal and state agencies.
Every time a proposal is made to modify a program like SS, which will not impact people well on their way to collecting, democrats make it sound as if 50, 60, 70, 80 90 year olds will be kicked out on the streets.
Ethically dishonest tactics to forward a political agenda at a cost to the people they pretend to help.
Democrats have a problem with Russian interference because it infringes on their right to do what the Russians are trying to do. Dems are doing what we see gangs do, have territorial disputes that result in the loss of life.
This terrifies me. And yes, it isn't Dumpf (though he certainly doesn't give a whit) its the repugs in the House and Senate. BUT it'll be Dumpf also when he signs it.
I know my son would at least try to take me in in the hopefully distant future should I live long enough to need help. He took me in when I became disabled - 2009 to 2016, that is 7 years, and he was working on his doctorate at the time (so was I, so much for that).
However sadly his wife (married last year, AFTER I had moved out) HATES me already. I shudder to think what that will progress to should I become more dependent on him than I already am in the hopefully distant future (but maybe not, with these cuts to Medicaid, I won't be able to afford my house payment any more when my premiums go up).
And just what is going to happen to people who don't have at least one child willing to take them in? Not to mention the ones who will "take (an elderly relative) in" but then abuse them, whether due to stress and frustration, lack of ability to provide the needed level of care, or just out of being mean.
Nobody cares about the elderly ALREADY. Folks are going to care even less once we've been totally run out of money and assets and nursing homes won't take us any more. You put someone in a nursing home out on the streets and they'll be dead before the door swings shut.
Yeah, turns out the death panels are real after all. Just list out every repugnican member of the house and senate and you'll know who they are.
You obviously don't understand how medicaid acceptance and nursing home admission works. If anything, changes will be geared toward "able bodied but soaking the system" people on medicaid. Think of it this way, those able bodied people on medicaid are soaking money away from the elderly and that needs to change.... So seriously, learn more about medicaid and don't believe the rhetoric.
Seriously think about what depending on your children entails. We took our mom in for 3 yrs, it turned our lives upside down, it was "EXHAUSTING!" and miserable. You can't compare taking care of an elderly person with disabilities to a young child. And don't forget, they have responsibilities, jobs and spouses elderly parents.
We wanted to take mom in, when we tried to get help doors slammed in our faces. After 3 yrs we couldn't do it anymore (physically, financially and mentally, it's heartbreaking) we did everything we could but the best thing we did was admit her to a NH. "Proper, knowledgable care and safety is utmost importance, are your kids equipped to handle all this? And for the kids, it's important that you visit regularly. No one wants to feel forgotten.
You obviously don't understand how medicaid acceptance and nursing home admission works. If anything, changes will be geared toward "able bodied but soaking the system" people on medicaid. Think of it this way, those able bodied people on medicaid are soaking money away from the elderly and that needs to change.... So seriously, learn more about medicaid and don't believe the rhetoric.
Seriously think about what depending on your children entails. We took our mom in for 3 yrs, it turned our lives upside down, it was "EXHAUSTING!" and miserable. You can't compare taking care of an elderly person with disabilities to a young child. And don't forget, they have responsibilities, jobs and spouses elderly parents.
We wanted to take mom in, when we tried to get help doors slammed in our faces. After 3 yrs we couldn't do it anymore (physically, financially and mentally, it's heartbreaking) we did everything we could but the best thing we did was admit her to a NH. "Proper, knowledgable care and safety is utmost importance, are your kids equipped to handle all this? And for the kids, it's important that you visit regularly. No one wants to feel forgotten.
the visiting regularly is the important part regardless whether grandma is living in a long care facility under medicaid or paying for it herself. Our church has a group, which I happen to be part of that once a month visits those who are shut ins, either in long term care or their own home. We take their mail to them from church, visit them, take them to lunch if they are able to get out and just generally give them some time. They love every minute we spend with them.
the visiting regularly is the important part regardless whether grandma is living in a long care facility under medicaid or paying for it herself. Our church has a group, which I happen to be part of that once a month visits those who are shut ins, either in long term care or their own home. We take their mail to them from church, visit them, take them to lunch if they are able to get out and just generally give them some time. They love every minute we spend with them.
Of course it's important to visit regardless of how the finances are. I'm not sure why that was even needed to be discussed. Elderly who are taken to nursing homes who's family never or rarely come to visit are called drop offs, It's sad... no one wants to feel forgotten..
Medicaid. There are too many able bodied people on medicaid. Each time an able bodied takes out of the safety net they are taking from people who are legitimately disabled. The abuse is a disgrace.
the visiting regularly is the important part regardless whether grandma is living in a long care facility under medicaid or paying for it herself. Our church has a group, which I happen to be part of that once a month visits those who are shut ins, either in long term care or their own home. We take their mail to them from church, visit them, take them to lunch if they are able to get out and just generally give them some time. They love every minute we spend with them.
Actually, there are many family members who visit their family regularly at the nursing home. We've even come to know each other pretty good. Unfortunately there are the drop offs too.
Kansas tried cutting in-home health care. It backfired. Those people started going into nursing homes which cost the state almost 10 times as much per patient. The restored the cuts.
Missouri is lowering the income level to the point that many on disability are no longer eligible for Medicaid. They also cut funding for free clinics. So those people are overloading ERs. But the governor got tax cuts for the rich. That is what was important to them.
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