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Old 06-30-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Again, that is how single payer (socialized medicine) health insurance works. We all pay in from our income tax.

Except for those that choose not to work...
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:52 AM
 
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Except in "socialized medicine" we are also paying for those that can't.
We are doing that now, it is called Medicaid.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:52 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Except for those that choose not to work...
Can you figure a way to make them pay?
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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We are doing that now, it is called Medicaid.

And if that was working as it should, why was there a push for Obama care, and now whatever this administration comes up with ?
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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OP, your concern about the perils of socialized medicine possibley costing lives has evolved into the possibility of socialized medicine providing medical care to those who do not pay or work.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Can you figure a way to make them pay?

That is the problem. For those that truly need help, I'm sure the majority of us have no problem funding them. It's the leeches that I don't want to help. How do we differentiate between the two ?
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Except in "socialized medicine" we are also paying for those that can't.
Which is what a decent society does.
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Old 06-30-2017, 09:58 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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That is the problem. For those that truly need help, I'm sure the majority of us have no problem funding them. It's the leeches that I don't want to help. How do we differentiate between the two ?
Keeping the dead alive with erroneously expensive advanced medical care won't differentiate between the two.
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:01 AM
 
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OP, your concern about the perils of socialized medicine possibley costing lives has evolved into the possibility of socialized medicine providing medical care to those who do not pay or work.
It's all part of it. You didn't see my post ? I'm not partial to either way at the moment.


"I posted this for a reason. We just can't have it both ways. If we go the socialized route for the majority of people it will probably work out and there will be cases like these. If we continue on the way we are, only people like my wife and I that pay our $800 a month in premium will get coverage while those of us less fortunate will suffer.


The common denominator of all this though, and it is one that our politicians aren't focusing on , like Craigiri said, although I'll add "crony" capitalist health care is a big fail. I'm all for capitalism but what we are seeing from the insurance companies and big pharma is more like extortion.


How do we get a handle on it ? Our politicians fighting about it in DC aren't ... it certainly doesn't seem like it."
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Old 06-30-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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How quickly we forget the Schiavo case.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case

She was in a vegitarias state and her husband pursued removal of her feeding tube. Her parents however, disagreed. This eventually landed in Federal court that eventually concluded the tube be removed.

While this was a very sensationalized case, there is no shortage of instances where US courts have decided to pull the plug.
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