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Sooo we are 4 pages in and the best charge against what Don Jr did is this
"Jr. went to the meeting expecting to get dirt on Clinton - that's the illegal campaign contribution." by Emma4.
I haven't heard anything that he was willing to pay for the dirt on Clinton.
The fact that Don Jr. took a meeting from a so called hostile government in order to collect damaging info on Clinton that he was willing to pay for thus violating the campaign contribution laws is a stretch.
Bill Clinton gave 2 speeches in Russia and his fees totaled a million dollars. What was said in those speeches and who heard it and where did that money go? Did the money go into the foundation, his private account or the elect Hillary fund?
I know I know Bill was a private citizen then but so was Don Jr....
I still think this new Russian outrage is a big nothing designed to cast more doubt on the Trump admin. and to boost the ratings of CNN and the like.
I am not an obtuse Trump supporter like I was called on another post I just don't see the big deal here.
I want real evidence.
The only laws I have been shown, define funds
Nothing about losing ones 1st, 4th and 5th amendments.
I suggest it might be beneficial for you to read the laws in regard to collusion if you really do not understand what it is.
Nothing personal, but it has been explained ad nauseum in this forum.
But that is ok. Nixon loyalists didn't get the criminality thing until the very end, and, true story--I've actually heard a few older Germans say that Hitler was not all bad.
You could cite verse and chapter until you are blue i the face and still the cult would excuse their Dear Leader.
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Originally Posted by earthlyfather
Like so many jailhouse lawyers. Only Michiganmoon attempted an answer. The rest deflected, digressed, blame shifted, etc. What exactly occurred - what action(s) - in this collusion?
What did the Russkies do?
How did this cause President Trump to beat Mrs Clinton?
Simple questions which no one who knows the answer(s) should not answer.
Who did what, when?
How did someone benefit?
I'm sorry ~ isn't that Mueller's job? They are paying him $$$$$ to come up with all those answers. The rest of us are just sharing our opinions on an anonymous online forum.
The rest of us can spot liars when we see them.
Thirdly - your questions may NEVER be quantifiable. Doesn't mean Junior didn't lie over and over and over. doesn't mean Kushner didn't lie on his security forms ~ over and over and over. Flynn and Manafort? I predict more to come.
You could cite verse and chapter until you are blue i the face and still the cult would excuse their Dear Leader.
I'm sorry ~ isn't that Mueller's job? They are paying him $$$$$ to come up with all those answers. The rest of us are just sharing our opinions on an anonymous online forum.
The rest of us can spot liars when we see them.
Thirdly - your questions may NEVER be quantifiable. Doesn't mean Junior didn't lie over and over and over. doesn't mean Kushner didn't lie on his security forms ~ over and over and over. Flynn and Manafort? I predict more to come.
Many people are saying that Don Jr should have gone to the FBI when he was first approached about the meeting and especially after but still what law was broken?
I can't help but think of a scenario that might help with this dilemna.
Say a person came to you and told you about a plan they had to rob a bank and they wanted you to be the getaway driver. You declined and a week later they rob the bank, get caught and they tell the cops that they told you about the plan which implicates you because you didn't alert the FBI. Why would you alert the cops to something that someone might do especially if you didn't feel a crime was actually going to be committed?
People talk trash all the time. Don Jr went to a meeting to possibly get info and who knows if he did or not but if his BS radar didn't go up then why would he think anything was wrong just like in the possible bank robbing scenario.
I think the Trump families biggest problem is that they are not politicians and they are not attorneys that have been trained to watch every word they say and careful of every situation they might find themselves in lest they be sued.
That and the Dems and Lefty media is out to get them.
Many people are saying that Don Jr should have gone to the FBI when he was first approached about the meeting and especially after but still what law was broken?
I can't help but think of a scenario that might help with this dilemna.
Say a person came to you and told you about a plan they had to rob a bank and they wanted you to be the getaway driver. You declined and a week later they rob the bank, get caught and they tell the cops that they told you about the plan which implicates you because you didn't alert the FBI. Why would you alert the cops to something that someone might do especially if you didn't feel a crime was actually going to be committed?
People talk trash all the time. Don Jr went to a meeting to possibly get info and who knows if he did or not but if his BS radar didn't go up then why would he think anything was wrong just like in the possible bank robbing scenario.
I think the Trump families biggest problem is that they are not politicians and they are not attorneys that have been trained to watch every word they say and careful of every situation they might find themselves in lest they be sued.
That and the Dems and Lefty media is out to get them.
Thats you defense? Really? Yes, you are obligated to inform the authorities of a crime.
Thats you defense? Really? Yes, you are obligated to inform the authorities of a crime.
Wrong. Unless you fail to report after the crime in which case you are an accessory after the fact or you are a mandatory reporter of crimes against children, you are not required to report that someone may commit a crime.
Wrong. Unless you fail to report after the crime in which case you are an accessory after the fact or you are a mandatory reporter of crimes against children, you are not required to report that someone may commit a crime.
How ridiculous.
Wrong. The crime happened when he walked into the room with a representative of a foreign government trying to peddle influence.
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