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Old 07-17-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Trumpcare Fails!!! Majority senate rejects bill!
More fake news from the poorly informed Obama crowd.

Voting was canceled and the bill will go back for more work. The problem seems to be that it was too similar to what we already have.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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If Obamacare implodes..it won't be in the Blue States--it will be the States that chose not to enter into the Medicare expansion in the beginning. Those are the states where insurance companies are pulling out of the exchanges..in many case..Trump Country.

If the gov. lets Obamacare implode--it will go down as a paradigm changer for our Country's political landscape.


I hope Trump lets it implode...I long for it...Lol!
I don't know if that is the case. My state, AZ, is an expansion state that is having major problems attracting insurers. In the beginning we had more choices than just about anywhere, but it quickly evaporated. It has to do with the relative lack of young, healthy people on the exchanges (or too many older, sicker ones). There's a number of complex reasons for that. One positive thing, though, is that the health care industry here is doing very well. New hospitals and new care facilities are opening everywhere and 10's of thousands of new jobs in healthcare are attributed to Obamacare's medicaid expansion.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I don't give a rip about some silly biased poll. I do give a damn about RINOs still in our party. They don't belong. They are Dems and need to go where they belong...on the left with the rest of the establishment shills.

There's no need for all of this bs that is going on except that we have RINOs in our party causing problems. Those are the topic of this issue, not Trump himself.
Rhino or trump causing problems? Hmm
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Just heard 2 more senators say no to trumpcare. It's dead. Obamacare goes on. Now let's insist they work across party lines for the good of us, not them.
Yes, and let's get after the Democrats, as well as the Republicans, to reach across the aisle and work together. The Democrats, being mainly interested in doing things that please the ordinary citizens, are better suited for initiating cooperation.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Super. Now where is the Democrat alternative to fix the awful scheme they alone passed? Or, I guess we can just let it implode.
Funny you should ask. The democrats have indeed been working on a fix for Obamacare. They might be the minority party, but unlike the republican minority in the past, they actually do have a plan and they are working to improve healthcare.
Ten House Democrats propose plan to fix ObamaCare | TheHill
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Wait, you want the government to remain open?

Glutton for punishment, eh?
The 70sq miles in DC is one small part of the govt. yes military and others need to get paid.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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The GOP healthcare bill is very simple. 1.Don’t get sick and 2. if you do die, die quickly.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Welll....You guys hijacked the Republican party--it was brilliant, btw. But the establishment has been waiting for their moment...and if there's one thing that the last 8+ years have taught us..it's that the Republicans are great at saying no.

As an aside,,what do you think would happen to Trump and the Alt/right agenda, if all those 'RINO's took your advice and crossed the aisle.

I'd be very careful what I wished for.
What, you think I'm scared that the Dems will win something? I don't care. The only way that the Republican party will ever get back to being the Conservative party is by getting rid of the RINOs. Otherwise, we will just keep playing this stupid game over and over again.

Cleaning house isn't pretty, and sometimes you're going to have to deal with pests that come flying out of the old rotting wood...but you have to do that in order to get things back in excellent condition.

If we have to suffer through some Dem wins while we get rid of these scum, so be it. They won't be in office long, and when the Republican party takes over again, it will be filled with actual Conservatives, not fake useless cucks. Unlike the neo-cons and leftists, I have no problems with criticizing certain members of the Republican party.

McCain...biggest RINO out there.
Paul Ryan...so obviously a Dem, just go, Ryan. Seriously, stop wasting our time.
The "never Trumpers", they can leave, too. Both in government and in the public. All of them can leave. They are not Conservatives.
Rubio, Jeb!, whatshername, were all RINOs. They can all be easily bought.

Get. Out.

And it's not "alt right", it's Conservative.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:22 PM
 
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Yes, and let's get after the Democrats, as well as the Republicans, to reach across the aisle and work together. The Democrats, being mainly interested in doing things that please the ordinary citizens, are better suited for initiating cooperation.
Democrats have been calling for a bipartisan discussions to work out a plan. Clinton offered her plan.

We'll see if Republicans take them up on it or just continue trying to ruin the country.
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Old 07-17-2017, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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I guess it will take them another 7 years to come up with something.
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