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View Poll Results: Do you believe Donald Trump is a man of loyalty, integrity and honesty?
Yes 71 16.14%
No 369 83.86%
Voters: 440. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-27-2017, 10:12 PM
 
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In other words, you think our civil servants are 'deep state'?

The Civil Service was to instituted to protect all of us, not just the employees, from the negative effects of political cronyism and the spoils system.
I think the problem is people in intelligence agencies monitoring every communication and selectively and illegally leaking that for political purposes. That's a serious issue. Civil servants are supposed to stay non-partisan. Judges are another problem. They are supposed to be non-partisan and not legislate.
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Old 07-27-2017, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Tri STATE!!!
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I'm disappointed that many fellow Trump supporters can't criticize the sidelining and pushing out of some of the best people in the administration. I have a real problem with the way he's treating some of his allies. And it bothers me that his unqualified liberal family members are in there causing it.
Yes. Hands off Herr Bannon and Grand Wizard Sessions. Those are good Christian family values honarable patriotic men...... Trump should be ashamed of himself going after those two upstanding citizens.
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I think we know who the 9 people are on here who actually voted YES in this poll ! Still holding out hope, aren't they ?
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Old 07-27-2017, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Nope. Not unless you're a wealthy friend of his. Everyone else is on their own.

It amazes me how poor and middle class people think rich people look out for them. But that's where education level comes in.

When has anyone ever made money for more than themselves?

The problem is these lower class people aspire to be the people up top, so they will continue to support them. What's that quote? "Socialism never took root in America because the proletariat views themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." That pretty much sums it up. They want to BE Trump. They want his wealth and his power. So they'll blindly support him, even though he doesn't care about them.
Hey, I am poor middle class. I may not have much but I am not stupid or totally uneducated. I don't think you have to be rich or educated to see what a boorish, selfish, sick, maniac, con man who is now our president. Frankly an insult to stupid people to not recognize this in Trump. Sure I aspire to have more but am moral enough to not squash the "little people" on my way up, unlike Trump.


Am opinionated two(as in also)

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Old 07-27-2017, 11:59 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Of course not.

To anyone who says yes: I'm going to assume you don't understand the meaning of the words.
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Old 07-28-2017, 01:24 AM
 
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Of course not.

To anyone who says yes: I'm going to assume you don't understand the meaning of the words.
I said yes and I believe he is a patriot and a great man who sacrificed his final years to lead our country . He is certainly about loyalty and he has been the most honest about our nations sad state and the first leader in my lifetime to really address americas declining future and the reality of our nations decline and wants to change it, the first real nationalist and populist outside of pat buchanan and a few others. He didnt say some crap about its morning in America, he was very honest about our nations decline and his desire to stop the decay.

The greatest President in my lifetime by a long shot.
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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I said yes and I believe he is a patriot and a great man who sacrificed his final years to lead our country . He is certainly about loyalty and he has been the most honest about our nations sad state and the first leader in my lifetime to really address americas declining future and the reality of our nations decline and wants to change it, the first real nationalist and populist outside of pat buchanan and a few others. He didnt say some crap about its morning in America, he was very honest about our nations decline and his desire to stop the decay.

The greatest President in my lifetime by a long shot.

Wow ! All I can say is WOW !
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Old 07-28-2017, 03:50 AM
 
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I said yes and I believe he is a patriot and a great man who sacrificed his final years to lead our country . He is certainly about loyalty and he has been the most honest about our nations sad state and the first leader in my lifetime to really address americas declining future and the reality of our nations decline and wants to change it, the first real nationalist and populist outside of pat buchanan and a few others. He didnt say some crap about its morning in America, he was very honest about our nations decline and his desire to stop the decay.

The greatest President in my lifetime by a long shot.

SAD

And I bet you never knew about Trump from the 80s up until his "Apprentice" show.. You would not say that about the man.
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Old 07-28-2017, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Nope. Not unless you're a wealthy friend of his. Everyone else is on their own.

It amazes me how poor and middle class people think rich people look out for them. But that's where education level comes in.

When has anyone ever made money for more than themselves?

The problem is these lower class people aspire to be the people up top, so they will continue to support them. What's that quote? "Socialism never took root in America because the proletariat views themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires." That pretty much sums it up. They want to BE Trump. They want his wealth and his power. So they'll blindly support him, even though he doesn't care about them.
You're probably right, but I have news for you. The democratic machine, Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the rest of the political jerk weeds don[t care about the poor either --- only to the extent that they keep voting for them. Other than that -- they could care less.


I do think that Trump cares about this country.
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Old 07-28-2017, 04:18 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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You're probably right, but I have news for you. The democratic machine, Hillary Clinton, Obama, and the rest of the political jerk weeds don[t care about the poor either --- only to the extent that they keep voting for them. Other than that -- they could care less.


I do think that Trump cares about this country.
Donald Trump cares about one thing, and one thing only..........Donald Trump. He has no loyalty to anyone or anything. Jeff Sessions was the one Senator who supported Donald Trump when no other Republican would. Because of Jeff Sessions Trump was able to gain some strength and go on to win the election. Now, Trump has no more use for him, and says Sessions only supported him for Sessions own benefit.

This pig of a human being would throw anyone under the bus, including his sons, if it comes down to it. And you think he cares about this country ? Puleeze, he only cares about lining his own pockets and in demeaning others to make himself feel better.
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