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Old 08-12-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Originally Posted by ellemint View Post
Um...because racists and white supremecists should be condemned.
to woodchoppers

 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:14 PM
 
Location: No Coordinates Found
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Great post. And the rich white men behind the alt-right media are trying to KEEP them down by brainwashing them into thinking that education is a bad thing. And many of them believe it -as you see them posting here with anti-college rhetoric. And the conservative politicians have busted the unions, which got rid of the high paying blue collar jobs with pensions and nice paychecks, yet the same conservative politicians get voted into office even though they don't look out for the best interests of the middle class workers. Else the unions wouldn't have been busted.

This is why I abhor the left vs right crap. The liberal vs. conservative spiel too. This is about economics. The scapegoat is race. I don't see why any rational thinking person can't see it. 🤑
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by G1.. View Post
You know this how?
Obama's own words ,actions and policies . You have not been very observant. His policies ,socialized medicine,Obama's words on collectivism. His words the government before individual rights. . anti police,calling his grandmother who raised him,Obama described her as a racist,then said she was a typical white person .
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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I wish we'd ignore all of this "left" versus "right" stuff. Trump isn't a true conservative or liberal...he's just Trump. He won't denounce white supremacists and is probably more comfortable in a room full of Eastern-bloc ex-KGB spies than regular 'Mericans.

White men (that aren't powerful or wealthy) feel emasculated and blame political correctness, affirmative action, blacks, gays, women, Latinos etc., for their struggles. That they're struggling, isn't really a question. White men are hurting. Unfortunately, like an old song stuck on repeat, they're focused on the wrong target. Rich/powerful white men keep working class white men under their thumb.

The 'us vs. them' rhetoric is a powerful drug. Women, LGBTQ and people of color want something approaching equality but to some white men, they've been convinced that it's a zero-sum game. For others to have a level playing field means that I, Joe White Guy, must sacrifice and give something up. There's cognitive dissonance where everyone can see the systemic advantage of being white and male except the very group that benefits.

The white nationalists types have to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and stop blaming non-whites and women for their problems. They need to focus on the rich white men, the policymakers and businessmen that ship their jobs offshore and help contribute to their misery. I think the white nationalists are afraid to confront their true enemy and so they focus on everything except the devil staring at them in the window.
What an awesome post!!!

This should be sticky'd at the top of this thread, haha.

All these losers who cry about oppression blame the minorities of this country, as if any minority (black, gay, etc.), has enough power and influence to systematically oppress them.

Meanwhile, the wealthy white people laugh at the morons and their misguided hate.

And like I stated earlier, the POTUS, VP, Congress, SCOTUS and executives/board of directors who are the major decision makers in this country aren't minorities. It's white men.

Last edited by ATG5; 08-12-2017 at 08:35 PM.. Reason: Typo
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:15 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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More Americans have been killed by alt-right white supremecists than Muslims living in the US or elsewhere in the last decade by a long shot. Americans have been doing it to themsleves for a while.
Really? Got anything to support your claims or is it facts pulled from air?
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Taratova View Post
I support Trump and want to know what the new leftist dividing word Alt Right means?
It is a new word, and to me it means all the conservatives who have concluded that the Republican Party isn't conserving anything but the net worth of its wealthy donors. An alternative is needed. Hence the "alt".
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Originally Posted by OnOurWayHome View Post
Do they have the right to plow a car into a crowd? Is that terrorism? Or does it only count when the driver is Muslim?
Are you incapable of staying on topic? The conversation that goes with what you quoted was about 1st Amendment Rights and Freedom of Speech. Do NOT quote me about Freedom of Speech and spew some BS that has NOTHING to do with WTF I'm bothered by in this event today.

We aren't talking about the car. We aren't talking about your definition of terrorism. We aren't talking about Muslims.

We are talking about 1st Amendment Rights and FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Do you get that? Can you talk about that? Do you have anything to add to that specific topic that was the subject of the post that you quoted?

The issue is, whether or not you like Unite the Right rally, whether or not you think they are "nazis", whether or not you think every last person on the right is a nazi, as some dumbasses on here think, is that First Amendment Rights were violated today.

That group, whether you like them or not, had the right to assemble there. They had their permit. At 8pm last night a final ruling was passed and they were allowed to continue their assembly there.

As they tried to get started, the cops would not let them get started, and then a Captain came out and told them that it was an "unlawful" assembly despite the fact that they had their permit to assemble there.

That is the point of the conversation that you quoted. You can discuss that, or you can go talk to a wall about your definition of terrorism and cars, because MY biggest issue with today is violation of our fricken RIGHTS!
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
What PC code are you having to conform to against your will? And do tell of the leftist agendas that curl your hair. Yeah, shame on the people who want everyone to have the same rights and opportunities.
Wow..you want to watch that knee-jerk!

A simple question would have sufficed..without the snark.

Soda pop taxes to reduce obesity.

Govt. doing things for our own good...that should be our choice. I don't see anywhere in my post(s) where I stated..or even implied, that I don't think everyone should have the same opportunities and rights.

Rights are inviolable, by definition.

Equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. Nor should it.

But the Left is just as controlling as the Right..more-so..in some ways.

The amalgam that is our Govt. is broken--left and right are locked in this death-match while the people watch in amazement..never dreaming that it's THEIR fault.
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:17 PM
 
Location: No Coordinates Found
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Originally Posted by jade408 View Post
More Americans have been killed by alt-right white supremecists than Muslims living in the US or elsewhere in the last decade by a long shot. Americans have been doing it to themsleves for a while.

Yes all colors, ethnicities, religious persuasions......Americans have been killing each other! 😫
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by jade408 View Post
More Americans have been killed by alt-right white supremecists than Muslims living in the US or elsewhere in the last decade by a long shot. Americans have been doing it to themsleves for a while.


That is not true.
And certainly not in the last 3 decades. Socialism has killed more people than anything.

Muslims ran the slave trades and auctioning to and all around, what was then the Colonial and post revolutionary USA. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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