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Old 08-14-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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I'm definitely not asking for that. Read the title of the thread and read my original post. I'm posing a question for debate and obviously everyone has an opinion. I'm a more or less a libertarian so I think the government should have as little involvement in my day to day life as possible. I was just curious if people think someone should be fired for being in the location of this event without knowing any other facts like what the individuals beliefs even are.
Level of involvement is obviously debatable and if the employee is a good employee, might be able to make the case that they were only passing by. But carrying a tiki torch screaming into the camera wearing some sort of polo shirt with a right wing symbol on it or carrying a sign that says "whites are the master race" is pretty hard to defend.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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The only color that matters to businesses is green. No sane employer would allow that to be endangered by being associated with skinheads or any other racist, especially those associated with violent groups.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:44 PM
 
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No I'm not. Their website lists all kinds of communist demands.
...........only in your mind.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Well they can't infringe on your 4th amendment rights. I don't think employers should be stifling free speech. Whether they can legally fire you or not doesn't make it less un-American or anti-free speech.
4th amendment? That has to do with due process and search warrants, are you sure you don't mean the 1st amendment
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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No I'm not. Their website lists all kinds of communist demands.
Do you understand what "communism" even is?

Black Lives Matter Releases List of Demands in Policy Agenda | Time.com
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Free speech is free speech but not when you are on some else's time.
So you are saying no that they should not be fired for attending the Pro Choice rally on their own time? And don't try to be cryptic, just answer the question.

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Old 08-14-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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Tell that to every Occupy protester
Are you really equating White Supremacist events to the Occupy protests? Come on...

Also, I don't see many masks here: Google Images: occupy wall street protesters
I see plenty of people that were freely and open at these protests.

Are you talking about the stupid anarchist morons that ruined some peaceful protests with their destructive behaviors (you should know that they basically just took over the protests to break things and really had no interest in the movement/protest)?




If an employer felt these people were damaging their brand or violating some employee agreements, then they'd have a case to fire them, too. Just like the companies firing these White Nationalist/Supremacists.

Then again, they might reach a different conclusion since WS movements are viewed far more negatively than the Occupy Protests (for good reason, by the way). I personally would fire someone openly attending WS events - how could I ever trust them to work effectively with a non-white person? Talk about a liability...

Someone attending an Occupy protest? As long as they were peaceful, I would see no issue there (although, if they were one of the stupid masked anarchists - I might fire them).


A different employer might disagree with me, since it is their company (but again...it shouldn't be a surprising when they're not treated equally).
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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No I'm not. Their website lists all kinds of communist demands.
The irony is you think communism is equivalent to racism. At its core, white nationalism or supremacy or whatever you want to call it is about denying people their rights. Changing the demographics of the country based on race is literally against the constitution. The beliefs of white nationals are fundamentaly unconstitutional at a minimum. You would not be able to find anything in the organizations website that is unconstitutional. More nonsense.
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Old 08-14-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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A person's ability to keep their job should be based on their performance not their politics.

In the Soviet Union you needed to be in the Communist party to get a job. In Fascist Italy you needed to be a member of the Fascist party in order to be employed. A man was forced out of his job in Berkeley California because he was on the wrong side in the protest.

How much difference is there between the social justice warriors and the authoritarians that I named above and why are they always ready to hold my coat while they induce me to fight on their behalf.

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Old 08-14-2017, 04:51 PM
 
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First they came for......
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