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That said, Canada's 10 year Visa program has created a massive housing boom in Vancouver, notably. Good for older folks who want to sell, take their profit and retire, but not so good for young natural born Canadians who have effectively been squeezed out of the housing market, by way of a Visa program. Unintended consequences. No country has the perfect answer..
I agree with the merit system but did you have to flood the zone to squeeze the natives out of their homes? The so called "perfect answer" is to have some common sense.
Vancouver's housing boom is not because of incoming immigrants -- it's foreigners investing from overseas...hence the legislation to tax foreign real estate investors.
Also the mountains to the north, the water to the south/west....kind of restrict things...lol.
You may wish to brush up your knowledge of Canadian politicians. Pierre Trudeau is no longer Prime Minister, and hasn't been since 1984. Heck, he died some years ago.
You are, I assume, referring to Justin Trudeau, the current Canadian PM.
There is at least one wrong point in this post: Canada's Prime Minister is not Pierre Trudeau. It is Justin Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau has not been PM since 1984, and is currently dead, so he could not serve as PM anyway.
As for the rest, I'm among those who predicted this back when Mr. Trump signed the EOs banning people from certain countries (i.e. what the rest of the world called "Trump's Muslim ban" even if the US officially did not) back in January; and when Justin Trudeau made his now-infamous tweet in response. I know what Mr. Trudeau meant--he meant it in a general sense, that Canada welcomes immigrants and refugees, regardless of country of origin, religion, skin colour, and so on (unlike the appearance Mr. Trump gave for the US); but only as long as you pass our vetting process. The emphasis is important because what he did not mean was "No matter who you are, arrive here by any means and we will give you sanctuary without any vetting." Unfortunately, that's how many refugees--perfectly legal refugees, mind you, that the US had agreed to take in and harbour--understood it, and now they are entering Canada illegally by walking across the Canada-US border, thinking that they will be given sanctuary by simply walking across a surveyed line.
I agree with Mr. Trudeau's sentiment, but I disagree with how it has been interpreted by refugees. My own feeling is that, the refugees having crossed the border from the US, very few will be allowed to stay in Canada. The Third Country Agreement prevents this from happening, as it states (paraphrased) that "No person, arriving in Canada from the United States, can claim refugee status," and vice versa. Citizenship doesn't matter; if a Somali is accepted as a refugee in the US, he cannot go to Canada and claim refugee status again. In other words, the US is stuck with him. As a result, I'm sure that many of the illegal-border-crossing-refugees will be returned to the US under the Third Country Agreement; or perhaps deported to Haiti or their countries of citizenship. Probably not what they hoped would happen, but I think it is safe to say that as a result of that Tweet by Mr. Trudeau back in January, many were misled about how they would be treated by Canada.
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Douglas Todd does not support that idea. Granted it is one man's case, though he seems to make a good one. Though a couple - only a couple, so I accept this is somewhat anecdotal - of Vancouverites point to the super visa program as contributing to the housing bubble problem in Vancouver.
Are you from Vancouver? All I can do is rely on various news reports, the Sun, reuters, abc and so, plus some thought as related to me.
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Vancouver's housing boom is not because of incoming immigrants -- it's foreigners investing from overseas...hence the legislation to tax foreign real estate investors.
Also the mountains to the north, the water to the south/west....kind of restrict things...lol.
Picky, picky, picky. Probably my fault in the OP, but will not bother to look back. The point is politicians make ill-advised comments all of the time, no country gets it everything right. Finally, Canada will not be able to stop the flow north if this is the vanguard of an illegal relocation. A long border. Canada will have to rethink their policies. And, finding illegals is easier said then done. Better hope Canada's pols are not as waffly and weak as the U.S.'
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There is at least one wrong point in this post: Canada's Prime Minister is not Pierre Trudeau. It is Justin Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau has not been PM since 1984, and is currently dead, so he could not serve as PM anyway.
As for the rest, I'm among those who predicted this back when Mr. Trump signed the EOs banning people from certain countries (i.e. what the rest of the world called "Trump's Muslim ban" even if the US officially did not) back in January; and when Justin Trudeau made his now-infamous tweet in response. I know what Mr. Trudeau meant--he meant it in a general sense, that Canada welcomes immigrants and refugees, regardless of country of origin, religion, skin colour, and so on (unlike the appearance Mr. Trump gave for the US); but only as long as you pass our vetting process. The emphasis is important because what he did not mean was "No matter who you are, arrive here by any means and we will give you sanctuary without any vetting." Unfortunately, that's how many refugees--perfectly legal refugees, mind you, that the US had agreed to take in and harbour--understood it, and now they are entering Canada illegally by walking across the Canada-US border, thinking that they will be given sanctuary by simply walking across a surveyed line.
I agree with Mr. Trudeau's sentiment, but I disagree with how it has been interpreted by refugees. My own feeling is that, the refugees having crossed the border from the US, very few will be allowed to stay in Canada. The Third Country Agreement prevents this from happening, as it states (paraphrased) that "No person, arriving in Canada from the United States, can claim refugee status," and vice versa. Citizenship doesn't matter; if a Somali is accepted as a refugee in the US, he cannot go to Canada and claim refugee status again. In other words, the US is stuck with him. As a result, I'm sure that many of the illegal-border-crossing-refugees will be returned to the US under the Third Country Agreement; or perhaps deported to Haiti or their countries of citizenship. Probably not what they hoped would happen, but I think it is safe to say that as a result of that Tweet by Mr. Trudeau back in January, many were misled about how they would be treated by Canada.
Like I said picky, picky, picky. So, you got your gratuitous jab in. The mistakenly first name is nothing more than a better known, more famous father creating a shadow for son. The subject is Canada and the changing landscape for her immigration stance and policies.
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You may wish to brush up your knowledge of Canadian politicians. Pierre Trudeau is no longer Prime Minister, and hasn't been since 1984. Heck, he died some years ago.
You are, I assume, referring to Justin Trudeau, the current Canadian PM.
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