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Old 08-26-2017, 03:54 PM
 
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It was always there.

emphasis should be placed on that part.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahlb68geHyw
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Old 08-26-2017, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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The resentment is there. It is always there. In my opinion, more people are expressing that resentment, at least more so than the last 40 years.
See, and I don't think they're expressing it yet. Just talking among themselves.
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Old 08-26-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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If I were to take a guess as to the reasons for why disproportional violence takes place in black communities when compared to other races regardless of income or education levels, my first guess would be that it's mostly a cultural thing. I grew up in an all Hispanic barrio in South Texas, and while it wasn't perfect it was no more violent than a poor white neighborhood. I moved to a garbage neighborhood in Dallas when I was 19 and got my first taste of real Black Culture, not Hollywood Black Culture. I had never met so many violent, disrespectful, or irresponsible people in my entire life. I remember buying an extra lock for my apartment and listening to Sirens all night. The place just seemed to breed violence. The whole attitude of my hood was angry. Well, it took me less than six months to
Get a better paying job, meet some roomates, and get the hell out of there. That was the last time I ever put myself into a situation like that again other than a brief period when I was in college.

What I can tell you is that these areas are inherently violent, not these people. I can't tell you how many black men I've met that grew up in hoods like this that are the nicest people you'll ever meet. One thing I have noticed is even the ones that claim they did all kinds of crazy stuff when they lived in the hood seemed to break these habits the second they got out and weren't surrounded by mostly members of their own race. I think that says something.

There is no doubt a synergy of sorts to bad as well as good, civilized behavior. I think, in large part, Defining Deviancy Down (so poignant), is a consequence of synergizing bad behavior,
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Reason: People commit crime disproportionately in those hoods.

Solution: Avoid them.

Not sing:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq28qCklEHc
I loved West Side Story as a kid.

I still moved out of my ghetto the day after I graduated high school though.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:21 PM
 
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I loved West Side Story as a kid.

I still moved out of my ghetto the day after I graduated high school though.
Moving out of a ghetto = Terrific decision
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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Stats condemn bad behavior, and most here pointed to stats. Stats are not biased. They result from choices groups of people make.
Stats are just stats, numbers. It is people using those stats as an excuse to say "I don't like Blacks" or "I don't like Hispanics", that is a totally different matter. And stats aren't going to condemn bad behavior. Most of the persons who make those decisions are going to do it no matter what.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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Stats are just stats, numbers. It is people using those stats as an excuse to say "I don't like Blacks" or "I don't like Hispanics", that is a totally different matter. And stats aren't going to condemn bad behavior. Most of the persons who make those decisions are going to do it no matter what.
Stats drive most rational decisions, as they should.

They tell the story best. Is this a civilized neighborhood? Crime stats answer that best.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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It was always there.

emphasis should be placed on that part.
And that is why I bring it up. It has always been there. It just that now, it is being broadcast more.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:42 PM
 
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Stats drive most rational decisions, as they should.

They tell the story best. Is this a civilized neighborhood? Crime stats answer that best.
Rational decisions for whom? Who gets helped by it? Who gets hurt by the statistics? And those who aren't helped by those statistics, like me, I have to think about what that means for me. I'm the one who has to live in society.
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Old 08-26-2017, 04:48 PM
 
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Rational decisions for whom? Who gets helped by it? Who gets hurt by the statistics? And those who aren't helped by those statistics, like me, I have to think about what that means for me. I'm the one who has to live in society.
The person making the decision is helped. When I moved 1,000 miles away in 1997 I viewed crime stats by neighborhood, avoided some awful hoods that way.

We all live in society, but just small subsets of it. We are in control of the crime sets of our neighborhood. We make them safe, more wish to move in, housing values rise.
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