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Old 09-04-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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In other words he has no idea what to do or is afraid his decision will bite him, not what I would call a real leader. The good thing to come out of this is Congress will do the right thing and leave it in place, and the far right can go back to whining about it.
No.

In other words, this is how it should have been done in the first place.

Not with Obama creating another entitlement by executive decree.

 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: St Paul
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Dan is an Idiot.


Oh and No Repub that supports DACA is in any danger, the majority of voters support the Program, that is because it is the Right thing to do for those that it applies to.


Just more Ramblings from the far right side............
Why is it the right thing to do? The law says you can't come into or stay in the country illegally. It's pretty simple. All DACA does is incentivize illegals to bring their kids into the country, or worse yet, to send them alone. Obama deported record numbers of children back to their home countries & Trump will continue it. It's not about compassion, it's about the law & common sense.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Nope, he passed the Buck to Congress who will continue the program and trump will sign off on it.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I heard the same thing in the 80s. The old white guys who voted for Reagan were supposed to "die off" and turn the country over to the left. Well, it is 2017 and Trump is in office. When are they going to die off then?
Soon enough.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:40 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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BTW OP, why do I have to remind you and other thread starters the difference between past, present, and future tense? "Going to do something" is definitely not the same as "doing it" or "did it." What with these clickbait threads?
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:42 AM
 
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Why is it the right thing to do? The law says you can't come into or stay in the country illegally. It's pretty simple. All DACA does is incentivize illegals to bring their kids into the country, or worse yet, to send them alone. Obama deported record numbers of children back to their home countries & Trump will continue it. It's not about compassion, it's about the law & common sense.
If this has not occurred yet to you, it should.....

There is a difference between what happens going forward and what happened in the past. We surely don't want to incentivize people to come illegally. The ways around that are simple.

1. Do comprehensive immigration reform - top to bottom (note - Bush and Obama tried, GOS Congress was not willing).
2. Only define DACA in terms of a certain date. I have to assume this is already somewhat the case - let me look it up.......sure, this is very true! You have to have been here since 2007 so unless you have a time machine it's already not going forward....


Came to the United States before their 16th birthday
Have lived continuously in the United States since 15 June 2007
Were under age 31 on 15 June 2012 (i.e., born on 16 June 1981 or after)
Were physically present in the United States on 15 June 2012, and at the time of making their request for consideration of deferred action with USCIS
Had no lawful status on 15 June 2012
Have completed high school or a GED, have been honorably discharged from the armed forces, or are enrolled in school
Have not been convicted of a felony or serious misdemeanors, or three or more other misdemeanors, and do not otherwise pose a threat to national security or public safety
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Bronx, New York
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One thinks that the Senate voting to end DACA is very low!

And another thing: What economic impact does ending DACA have? Got a feeling it would be the same impact as the so-called "tort reform" proposal for fixing healthcare.........very little! Just my two cents!
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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DACA was an unconstitutional Executive Order. It should be ended.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:43 AM
 
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GOP 2017 Dream Act, talked about in Congress last week, now has 6 months to get a signature.
I have never heard of this being proposed in 2017. Would you provide us with a link to it? It surprises me that the GOP would write such a bill. I would have expected it from the Democrats. Is it about granting permanent amnesty for these so-called Dreamers?
 
Old 09-04-2017, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Human trafficking is immoral and disgusting. Glad it's gone.
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