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View Poll Results: Would you vote to forfeit 800,000 American job opportunities?
Sure, why not? We are generous. 46 34.07%
No! Are you crazy? 76 56.30%
I don't care. 13 9.63%
Voters: 135. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-03-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by FinsterRufus View Post
Deporting kids who had no say about coming here in the first place will not make it easier for other families to immigrate legally.

The two things have nothing to do with each other.
Denying kids visas for immigrating and even visiting the US because they had no choice about where they were born. Yet that is fine by you, but to boot those who violate US laws is not, so we should reward them? Look how many legal kids in the US have to get uprooted every year for various things ranging from military service, to unemployment, to disasters, to loss of break winner; you looking at some sort of compensation for them? Of course not, illegal immigrants in your world are "special" and deserve to have everyone's head turn away from the fact they broke the law to get here, while numerous others abide by the law.

 
Old 09-03-2017, 10:58 PM
 
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So by ending this there will be hundreds of thousands of job openings including 250 at Apple... Scholarships and other aid goes back to American kids and citizens...what's wrong with this? Americans have dreams too
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:02 PM
 
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Denying kids visas for immigrating and even visiting the US because they had no choice about where they were born. Yet that is fine by you, but to boot those who violate US laws is not, so we should reward them? Look how many legal kids in the US have to get uprooted every year for various things ranging from military service, to unemployment, to disasters, to loss of break winner; you looking at some sort of compensation for them? Of course not, illegal immigrants in your world are "special" and deserve to have everyone's head turn away from the fact they broke the law to get here, while numerous others abide by the law.
Um, it's not "fine by me".

And being uprooted due to circumstance is not the same as being deported from the country you grew up in. Not the same at all.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Looking forward to the lawsuits against this. The ACLU is poised and ready. And 78% of Americans agree that Dreamers should be allowed to stay.
Do you have any proof of that? Did you mean to say 78% of Americans living in Tijuana, Mexico?
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:11 PM
 
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Um, it's not "fine by me".

And being uprooted due to circumstance is not the same as being deported from the country you grew up in. Not the same at all.
Not all of them grew up here. Many of them spent the majority of their childhood in their own countries. Look at the requirements for DACA. They have to be under 16 when they were brought here illegally. A 15 year old most certainly has ties to his/her own country.

DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) - Immigration Equality

You want to make exceptions for DACAs. I bet you loved DAPA, too, which, mercifully was ended. Where does it end for you?
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:15 PM
 
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Human trafficking?? Is that the latest dog whistle?

I don't really care one way of the other....if Mexico was smart..they'd take the gift of these US educated people and use them to bootstrap their country.

Actually human trafficking is a big problem. There are other ways they are taken advantage of too. You should really read up on it before you spout.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:17 PM
 
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its amazing. these people have had years to become US citizens and they never took the chance to.

kick them all out.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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You can put an end date to the program without deporting the people already in it.
You are doing exactly what I'm talking about millions who live in Mexico and Central America will see that if they come here with their kids they will eventually become legal somehow because they just saw 800k kids become legal. America would be better off helping Mexico and other countries get their economy's going and put people to work so they won't want to come to America. Instead we are nation building in the middle east where the people don't even want us there.

Kicking the can down the road doesn't solve the problem.

At least now that they have registered with the DACA program we know where they are and can round them up send them back home.
 
Old 09-03-2017, 11:28 PM
 
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Trump is calling the Dems and Reps bluff of "If only we had immigration reform..." Now is their chance! Pass the Raise Act which is immigration reform.

Just like the Reps were boasting they'd Repeal and Replace health care but when they had the opportunity they sat on their hands.

People need to direct their anger toward the Congress, not Trump.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 12:08 AM
 
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Default Sessions encouraged Trump to end DACA

So much for speculation Sessions was on his way out. I never believed it. I think Sessions has a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know about because there are no leaks.
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