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Old 09-04-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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Yes, it is about rewarding illegal aliens and there is no common sense in that. Where's the compassion for the American people who have lost their jobs to cheap illegal aliens and are having to contribute to the $113 billion a year that illegals cost us? These DACAs will also be competing against Americans for jobs and resources.


I'm sure they have family and friends in their homelands and since their parents brought them here illegally they can go back with them.... family intact. When American law breakers go to jail they are separated from their families and friends. Where's the tears and compassion for them? The DACA's followed a path that wasn't implemented lawfully by Obama. Tough cookies, it was only temporary anyway.
That's all your opinion. I don't agree with you, and I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who is obsessed by this topic and wants to lecture everyone at any given opportunity. It's futile, so have at it.

 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Yes, I'm sure constitutionality is the objection trump's base has to DACA.
It's that and the fact that our immigration laws need to be enforced.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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That's all your opinion. I don't agree with you, and I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone who is obsessed by this topic and wants to lecture everyone at any given opportunity. It's futile, so have at it.
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In other words my arguments were so compelling that you couldn't refute them. Obsessed? lol. I'm not lecturing just offering my opinion and the facts just like every other law abiding person in this topic is doing. Seems I really hit a nerve of truth with you. Oh, well.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:31 AM
 
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Sure, because if you were Jewish and in Europe prior to WWII you wouldn't have taken ANY steps to get your children to a safer place.....and, as a result, they would be non-existent.

The fact that you are here today likely means that some of your ancestors cared a lot more than you do.
Good point, between 1938 and 1949, The British Mandate Of Palestine (now known as Israel) was "overrun with illegals" as well, they just happened to be Ashkenazi Jews rather than Chicanos
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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DACA is not an EO. It was just a directive to use discretion on deportations.
You are right 2014 was an executive action that was blocked.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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We now know DACA will go.

MAGA
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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I thought the topic was DACA not illegals who came hare and stayed 10 years.

And if creating DACA and granting SS numbers and work permits was illegal how come it was not challenged by the GOP or others in court? It became reality with little resistance so just because you don't personally like it does not make it illegal.

Geez!! The poster I was replying to was speaking of any illegals that have been here for 10 plus years. There have been many DACA's that have been here that long also. DACA was challenged. I already posted a link to it. I not only don't like DACA but it is illegal and unconstitutional. Most of the GOP are a bunch of sell outs anyway. They didn't want to challenge it.
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Cracking down on illegals was central part of 2016 campaign.

This is a promise kept.

MAGA
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:43 AM
 
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In other words my arguments were so compelling that you couldn't refute them. Obsessed? lol. I'm not lecturing just offering my opinion and the facts just like every other law abiding person in this topic is doing. Seems I really hit a nerve of truth with you. Oh, well.
The only posts you make in this forum are immigration related.

You're entitled to do so, but I'm not wasting my time trying to counter fanatical POV''s. There's no point. Carry on!
 
Old 09-04-2017, 10:44 AM
 
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Geez!! The poster I was replying to was speaking of any illegals that have been here for 10 plus years. There have been many DACA's that have been here that long also. DACA was challenged. I already posted a link to it. I not only don't like DACA but it is illegal and unconstitutional.
You are mixing things up. 2012 Obama issued a directive on DACA. That still exists today.

In 2014 Obama issued a executive action which would have expanded to more DACA people and added DAPA people, basically their parents. Texas sued, it was blocked by a appetite court went to the supreme court in 2016 where the vote was 4-4 so the block stood.

two different things.

What Trump is likely to do is end DACA with a 6 month window. They congress will take it up and pass it as law. Then Trump will sign it.

If you can reference where it is unconstitutional for congress to do this I would like to hear it.
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