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View Poll Results: Do wealthy people owe the 99% something? Should they?
Yes 78 35.62%
No 141 64.38%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 219. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-22-2017, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I see the GOP donors have created a poll for tax cuts.

Goes along with cuts to the ACA while making them richer with the increases to the Pentagon and all those large Corporations making billions off our tax dollar's.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:09 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by FirebirdCamaro1220 View Post
I think it's the 0.05% that more concerns us who are more versed on the subject...
They pay a significantly higher average effective federal income tax rate than the bottom 95%. The IRS has data on this, as well.

The average effective federal income tax rate paid by the top 400 tax filers: 23.13%

Page 13: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/14intop400.pdf

Compare that to:

Latest IRS published average effective federal income tax rate, by income level:

Top 0.1%: 27.67%
Top 1%: 27.16%
Top 1-5%: 23.61%
Top 5-10%: 13.73%
Top 10-25%: 10.73%
Top 25-50%: 7.48%%
Bottom 50%: 3.45%

https://www.irs.gov/statistics/soi-t...omplete-report

This is why it's so incredibly frustrating that so many people believe the left's and MSM's manipulative lies. We would all be SO much better off if more people could actually think for themselves and verify what they're being told instead of just believing what a Dem politician or the MSM tells them.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:18 AM
 
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how many kids you got? or sick family member>?
How many kids do you have? is correct, not 'how many kids you got'.

How is the number of kids or sick family members Pedro has relevant to his post that you replied to ?......Newsflash: It isn't.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:25 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Should have also explained that the top 400 out of 139,562,034 tax filers is the top 0.000287%. In short, the very truly wealthy.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:27 AM
 
Location: NY, NY
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
They pay a significantly higher average effective federal income tax rate than the bottom 95%. The IRS has data on this, as well.

The average effective federal income tax rate paid by the top 400 tax filers: 23.13%

Page 13: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/14intop400.pdf

Compare that to:

Latest IRS published average effective federal income tax rate, by income level:

Top 0.1%: 27.67%
Top 1%: 27.16%
Top 1-5%: 23.61%
Top 5-10%: 13.73%
Top 10-25%: 10.73%
Top 25-50%: 7.48%%
Bottom 50%: 3.45%

https://www.irs.gov/statistics/soi-t...omplete-report

This is why it's so incredibly frustrating that so many people believe the left's and MSM's manipulative lies. We would all be SO much better off if more people could actually think for themselves and verify what they're being told instead of just believing what a Dem politician or the MSM tells them.
This is still nowhere near the tax rate the wealthy paid during the Cons' golden age of the US, the 1950s/1960s. Since Republicans want to take us back there socially, then the tax rate should reflect what it was at that time.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:33 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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This is still nowhere near the tax rate the wealthy paid during the Cons' golden age of the US, the 1950s/1960s.
Marginal or effective tax rate? Can you clarify? There's a BIG difference between the two.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Southern Nevada
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Most of the liberals think that if a person has money they must've stolen it, had it given to them, or acquired it through some other ill-gotten way, and they think they deserve a piece of the action. At the very least, tax them to death. Better yet, just take it from them and play Robin Hood.

What about the person that made it on their own? Started a business, had some success, employs people and treats them well. Do they deserve to have their pockets picked? Not everyone that has a few bucks in their wallet should be made to share it with anyone if they don't want to.
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Old 09-22-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Most of the liberals think that if a person has money they must've stolen it, had it given to them, or acquired it through some other ill-gotten way, and they think they deserve a piece of the action. At the very least, tax them to death. Better yet, just take it from them and play Robin Hood.
Robin Hood actually stole money from the tax collectors/government and gave it back to the taxpayers. I'm good with that.

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What about the person that made it on their own? Started a business, had some success, employs people and treats them well. Do they deserve to have their pockets picked? Not everyone that has a few bucks in their wallet should be made to share it with anyone if they don't want to.
Doesn't matter. The "tax the rich more than me" crowd rationalize their immoral greed by demonizing everyone who has worked hard to achieve a higher income level and therefore has been able to accumulate wealth.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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Most of the liberals think that if a person has money they must've stolen it, had it given to them, or acquired it through some other ill-gotten way, and they think they deserve a piece of the action. At the very least, tax them to death. Better yet, just take it from them and play Robin Hood.

What about the person that made it on their own? Started a business, had some success, employs people and treats them well. Do they deserve to have their pockets picked? Not everyone that has a few bucks in their wallet should be made to share it with anyone if they don't want to.
As long as they didn't do anything illegal to get rich it's no one's business how they became wealthy. Having it voluntarily given to them is not ill gotten in any way. It is not my business how the neighbor got the money for his Range Rover and I don't care. Just don't play me and tell me you are not wealthy if you are in that 1%, and that does happen.
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Old 09-22-2017, 07:13 AM
 
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More ,NO. Should they pay their fair share ,HELL YES!
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