Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
This is a giant shortcoming in your overall logic on this topic, of which you have posted on extensively here, offering little more than false equivalencies, emotional outflow, and a refusal to even try to understand the many facets that comprise American gun violence. And being as you're a foreigner anyway, it seems pointless to engage your desire to denigrate our country and citizenry at every opportunity. Which is why I certainly won't.
False equivalencies? How exactly? What would the gun death rate be in the UK if we simply 'discount' gang violence? We are comparing like for like - ie the amount of people getting shot to death in our respective countries, and the figure is miniscule in the UK compared to the US, if we both discount gang related or suicides (in both countries) it would STILL be miniscule in the UK compared to the US!!
It makes a lot of difference. The people committing violent crime using a gun are mainly in the inner city black communities. Stay out of there.
I'm sorry but the question is 'gun deaths' in the US being extortionately high, whats the poing of simply discounting vast swathes of the population? A black life is still a life no?
False equivalencies? How exactly? What would the gun death rate be in the UK if we simply 'discount' gang violence? We are comparing like for like - ie the amount of people getting shot to death in our respective countries, and the figure is miniscule in the UK compared to the US, if we both discount gang related or suicides (in both countries) it would STILL be miniscule in the UK compared to the US!!
You seem to be suffering from cognitive dissonance, with an insistence that despite the MANY cultural and population and constitutional differences between our countries that outcomes must remain the same. Since you are unable to move past this very elementary view, a more detailed discussion is fruitless. All one can do is pat you on the head and thank you for participating.
You seem to be suffering from cognitive dissonance, with an insistence that despite the MANY cultural and population and constitutional differences between our countries that outcomes must remain the same. Since you are unable to move past this very elementary view, a more detailed discussion is fruitless. All one can do is pat you on the head and thank you for participating.
I've taken the population difference into account, it makes no difference. There are cultural differences between ALL the first world nations yet the US is the outlier (by a HUGE distance) when it comes to death by guns. The gun crime is extortionately high in the US because of ridiculous gun laws, it ain't rocket science. If you somehow believe that Americans are somehow 'special' compared to the populations of 'other' first world countries I would like to know in what way exactly?
I'm sorry but the question is 'gun deaths' in the US being extortionately high, whats the poing of simply discounting vast swathes of the population? A black life is still a life no?
Maybe the Democrats who control all these cities where violent crime, and murder are committed in great numbers should do something about the PEOPLE committing the violence. They don't seem to care. Why isn't this addressed?
I'm sorry but the question is 'gun deaths' in the US being extortionately high, whats the poing of simply discounting vast swathes of the population? A black life is still a life no?
Yes it is. The point we are trying to make to you is that there is a small percentage of the population who has a culture that glorifies gun violence. 6% of the population makes up 80% of the US gun (non-suicide) homicides. That is alarming.
If you simply adjust the numbers by taking out that 6% of the population, then the US has a lower homicide rate than the UK.
White vs White Gun Crime
It is not an American Gun Violence issue; it is an inner-city gun violence issue.
Yes it is. The point we are trying to make to you is that there is a small percentage of the population who has a culture that glorifies gun violence. 6% of the population makes up 80% of the US gun (non-suicide) homicides. That is alarming.
If you simply adjust the numbers by taking out that 6% of the population, then the US has a lower homicide rate than the UK.
White vs White Gun Crime
It is not an American Gun Violence issue; it is an inner-city gun violence issue.
I am not sure what you are trying to prove but the reality can be found here.
The US has roughly five times the UK population, and there were only 26 homicides involving firearms in England and Wales in 2016. If the US had the same it would have around 150 to 200 firearms murders per year, and that's allowing for a good bit of flexibility.
The UK has one of the lowest firerams himicides and firearms suicide rates in the entire world, and is a very safe country.
I am not sure what your actual point is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Office for National Statistics
What methods of killing are used?
As in previous years, the most common method of killing for both male and female victims was by a knife or other sharp instrument, with 213 such homicides (37% of the total) recorded in the year ending March 2016.
Although the absolute number of homicides committed by knives or sharp instruments has risen from 186 in the previous year, the proportion of homicides committed by this method remains similar (36% for the year ending March 2015).
The second most common method of killing was “kicking or hitting”, accounting for 102 homicides (18% of the total), a proportion that has remained roughly a fifth over the last decade. The majority (79%) of those killed in this way were male victims.
In total, 26 homicide victims were killed by shooting, and although this was 5 more than the previous year it was one of the lowest numbers since 1980 (19 homicides).
Similar proportions of male and female victims were killed by a sharp instrument or by a blunt instrument but there were differences between the sexes in other methods (Figure 2.3).
For example, while hitting and kicking was the second most common method for male victims (81 homicides), for female victims it was strangulation or asphyxiation (33 homicides).
Differences in methods of killing by sex of victim tend to reflect differences in victim to suspect relationships as discussed in the How are victims and suspects related? section of this chapter.
Yes it is. The point we are trying to make to you is that there is a small percentage of the population who has a culture that glorifies gun violence. 6% of the population makes up 80% of the US gun (non-suicide) homicides. That is alarming.
If you simply adjust the numbers by taking out that 6% of the population, then the US has a lower homicide rate than the UK.
White vs White Gun Crime
It is not an American Gun Violence issue; it is an inner-city gun violence issue.
A lot of PURPOSEFUL obstinance going on here. I understand what you mean, and it is perfectly logical. The Democrat city leadership of these cities that have a violent crime problem where a gun is used by criminals will NOT address the problem. IF it were addressed, the violent crime, and murder rates where a gun is used would be lower than many other countries. ENFORCE existing laws, and give real jail sentences, not plea deals.
Yes it is. The point we are trying to make to you is that there is a small percentage of the population who has a culture that glorifies gun violence. 6% of the population makes up 80% of the US gun (non-suicide) homicides. That is alarming.
If you simply adjust the numbers by taking out that 6% of the population, then the US has a lower homicide rate than the UK.
White vs White Gun Crime
It is not an American Gun Violence issue; it is an inner-city gun violence issue.
FBI UCR data backs this.
If you were to post that, it would be deemed racist statistics when looking at offenders and victims.
It also would be deemed as blasphemy as the bulk of homicides come from...
Cities.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
