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Old 10-03-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Let's talk about real solutions:

1. Stop releasing anybody who is ineligible to own a firearm. They need to stay in prison or hospital until their situations change.

2. Impose a mandatory 10 years minimum sentence without parole for anybody committing any felony with any arm, not just guns. The second time, the person gets life without parole.

3. Abolish background check entirely (see #1) - employment or gun purchase. Either people have paid the debt to the society or they should stay in prison until such time.

4. Prohibit all media from glorifying mass murderers. For example, a murderer should only not be named or he should be given ridiculous nickname. Language such as "most deadly mass shooting in history" should not be used.

5. All accomplices including the straw purchaser should be charged with the same crime as the primary.

6. Parents should be held liable for their children (<18) using their guns to commit crime.

7. Change the prison system so that inmates must work, learn or both.
I agree, but you know it is not politically correct (especially the first one)

Or like Chris Rock said, Bullet control
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The Constitution was meant to be amended as circumstances changed.

Anyway we don't need to ban all guns, just the ones capable of putting out large numbers of rounds in a very short period of time. Repealing the second amendment may not even be necessary to accomplish that.
"Amended" means a change approved by 2/3 of each house and 3/4 of the states, or an alternative and only once-used convention method. It does not mean change imposed by an anonymous screen name on a discussion board.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:27 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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There are over 12,000 gun related homicides in the US every year. Which averages about 230 people per week or the equivalent of jetliner. If ever week a jetliner crashed killing 230 people, how long would we go before we made major overhauls to either the planes or the airline industry?

If every week 230 people died from contaminated drinking water how long would we go before we started purifying the water?

If Hurricane Irma swept in and killed 12,000 people would we make major overhauls to ensure it didn't happen again?

Yet we accept 12,000 gun deaths a year and we do nothing. We have no right calling ourselves a first world nation.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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lame why? because its true? Look Europe with their tight gun laws and all the terrorism going on over there.

Do you really think people will not resort to other means if guns are banned?

You sad because you can't see the big picture but instead use the typical knee jerk reaction.





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Such a lame argumentative comparison. If you don't see that, it's just sad.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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"Amended" means a change approved by 2/3 of each house and 3/4 of the states, or an alternative and only once-used convention method. It does not mean change imposed by an anonymous screen name on a discussion board.
Really? IDK. I'm pretty sure that city-data forum is a legislative body.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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This is so nuts it's not even worthy of debate.

1. So anyone ever convicted of any kind of felony must serve life in prison without parole? Because currently any ex-felon is barred from owning firearms unless they successfully petion to get their rights restored. Your idea would have anyone released from prison being eligible. You would be weakening current laws.

4. So much for the First Amendment.

6. You mean parents should go to prison for life without parole if their kid kills someone with a gun?
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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lame why? because its true? Look Europe with their tight gun laws and all the terrorism going on over there.

Do you really think people will not resort to other means if guns are banned?

You sad because you can't see the big picture.
This isn't about terrorism, this is about gun violence.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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After seeing how completely unmoved Republicans were following Sandy Hook, I lost all hope that anything will ever be done. It won't. .



WOW...a little dramatic are we....


All repubs.....what a BS lie.....

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One of the worst aspects from the proliferation of guns we have now is the unintended deaths due to children coming across them or death as a result of an escalated conflict where death would not have occurred if a gun hadn't been in such easy reach. IMO we should start charging the gun owner for the result since they were the ones that didn't lock them up.


They are not? Care to back up that claim?
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Really? IDK. I'm pretty sure that city-data forum is a legislative body.
I gather you are being sarcastic but my serious point is that change needs to be something on which there's a consensus.
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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congrats on invoking godwin's law

Nazis also ate broccoli, did you eat broccoli? Are you a Nazi?
You made the comment that "governments have a monopoly on force that's how it works". I replied "so did the Nazi's. Is that how it works?" You haven't explained where I was wrong?
If you believe that then maybe it's you who is a Nazi? What in the world does eating broccoli have to do with anything? Broccoli? That's all you can respond with.
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