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Old 10-08-2017, 10:10 AM
 
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I had to double check (no not really) but there is no amendment that gives you the right to bear automobiles.
Just like you have no right to air travel hence why a no fly list is constitutional, but a no gun buy list is not without due process.
Its mind boggling how the left are so completely ignorant when it comes to our constitution.

RR
So I can readily buy live grenades, land mines, RPGs? Can you recommend a good online store?
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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I'll take a balanced stance. I would support a ban on bump stocks, and support license and registration of firearms, and any firearms with the serial numbers removed must be disposed of, but I would not support any limit on the ownership of firearms, magazine limits, and I would also remove the restriction on suppressors.

However, these laws would not stop the thugs in the hood.. if they are owning uzis with the intent on killing, the last thing they care about is the gun law or a law banning suppressors, or whatever. Typically liberal judges give them a slap on the wrist for simply having these items, much less having them as a convicted felon. If you send a criminal back onto the streets, they will likely be a repeat offender. If you don't come down hard when they possess weapons as a felon, you're begging them to go out and murder someone.

Nothing will appease the left other than a total ban though.. make no mistake about it. Give them an inch, they will take a mile. I've found SNL, CNN, ESPN, and a lot of mainstream television to be unwatchable. They don't bother hiding their political bias anymore. I stick to science channels... animal planet, investigation discovery, etc.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:21 AM
 
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But 99.9% of mass shooters aren't the 'thugs in the hood"......

right?

Can we start by maybe just making it harder for one Dylan Roof, one Paddock .......
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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I haven't been able to watch SNL in years. It's not funny anymore, and they've gone full retard with the partisan politics.

They could really learn something from shows like South Park or Family guy that are actually funny because they make fun of everyone and display no political agenda despite their creators being pretty liberal.
No kidding.


I watched bits of the old one last night. From 1970-something. Jane Curtin and Bill Murray did Weekend Update. Oh, my, it was irreverent and very politically incorrect, but funny. Today's SNL is just plain dumb and not funny at all. They try too hard and just can't cut it.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:25 AM
 
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I didn't say confiscation, so the government wouldn't be stealing anyone's gun. A gun collector could meet the quota by selling off part of their collection.

Shocked you are asking about registration. Why do cars have license plates and registration? Partly because cars were used in the commission of crimes. Licenses and registration help identify the owner, as well as to trace stolen cars. No reason the same logic can't be applied to weapons as well.
Actually, cars are primarily licensed because the state wanted more income from them.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Maine
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So I can readily buy live grenades, land mines, RPGs? Can you recommend a good online store?
Actually you can if you have a FFL with a destructive devices licence, How do you think Hollywood special effects people get past the explosives laws.
You may have a hard time finding grenades though as they are proprietary and the gov. is under no obligation to sell them to you and there are no private manufacturers that I know of, Same for RPG's you can own the launcher but the explosive head is proprietary.
You could go to some failed state and possible purchase them, but once again the government is under no obligation to allow you to import them.
Not sure about land mines there maybe international treaty's that govern them.

Your also free to own a breech loading cannon if you want, no licence needed, more modern cannons will require the above mentioned FFL and DD lic. as the people in this video have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrZsnAWOU1g

Is there any other schooling you require.


RR
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Actually you can if you have a FFL with a destructive devices licence, How do you think Hollywood special effects people get past the explosives laws.
You may have a hard time finding grenades though as they are proprietary and the gov. is under no obligation to sell them to you and there are no private manufacturers that I know of, Same for RPG's you can own the launcher but the explosive head is proprietary.
You could go to some failed state and possible purchase them, but once again the government is under no obligation to allow you to import them.
Not sure about land mines there maybe international treaty's that govern them.

Your also free to own a breech loading cannon if you want, no licence needed, more modern cannons will require the above mentioned FFL and DD lic. as the people in this video have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrZsnAWOU1g

Is there any other schooling you require.


RR
Yep, just wondering how tyrannical the government needs to get before all those who hold the 2nd amendment so dear actually get to work. I mean with such easy access to weapons of war that you diligently detailed. What's the hold up?

Edit: You were wrong about the grenades. You can get them, usually for $200/tax a pop. And the problem with cannons is a limit on black powder. Evil government. But something to cheer. Civilians can own flamethrowers, soldiers cannot. That'll stop the military industrial complex in no time. And nothing further required as your info is faulty.

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Old 10-08-2017, 10:35 AM
 
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Actually Congress could pass a law limiting gun ownership to say 3 or 5 guns per person. That would be entirely constitutional: the 2nd amendment says you can own guns, not an infinite number of them. If we had a license and registration system along with a gun quota, it would make it difficult for lone wolf nuts to amass large arsenals.
Lmao "shal not be i fringed" is explicit. Any attack on constitutionally protected rights is tyranny and must be delt with as the founding fathers intended in the "radical" federalist papers. Diplomatically I mean. Just like civil rights marches, a march on washington by millons of gun owners turned criminals would change things real fast. It's exactly why the 2a still exists today.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:38 AM
 
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Yep, just wondering how tyrannical the government needs to get before all those who hold the 2nd amendment so dear actually get to work. I mean with such easy access to weapons of war that you diligently detailed. What's the hold up?
It's not about use of force it's about deterrent. Do you think the NK people would be in the situation they are if they had a 2nd ammendment. More specifically, do you want Trump, his admin, and the republicans to have complete control over everybody? There is a reason the world has not had a nuclear war, it's the 2a on a large scale. Of course you have lunatics like kim jong just like you have lunatics like LV guy.
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Government control is what the left advocates. Registration is the beginning of confiscation, we learned that in WWII history. It's how Germany was disarmed and jews were rounded up all over Europe. Paddock already broke numerous laws. No amount of new laws, which only hurt the law-abiding, would've stopped him. The left ignores that because they're too emotional to see past the "we have to do something" feelings.
^^^^^This. Well said.
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