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What did I make up? The CSA had a weak national government, and strong state governments, that is what ct was advocating for
Give it up. He stated we wanted to discuss policy so I asked him 5 times what policy. Never articulated. That tells you all you need to know. I saw on his profile he is friends with Bentlebow. Enuff said.
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I bet you try to ignore Trump too, probably not as successfully. It must be a hard existence trying to reconcile how he could have been elected and how he's likely to get another 4 years being as incompetent an administrator as he is
I do, The Cheeto isn't my pResident. So outside of this forum, I don't really know anything that's going on with him. I stopped watching the news after the election, and will resume when someone sane is President again
I've even seen posts here from right leaning posters that say us liberals, if we had half a brain, would vote for conservatives, almost word for word.
I really think the only thing that would make them truly happy is if every single partisan elected position in the whole country, at state, local and federal level went to Republicans, and that the Democratic Party would become extinct....
A loyal opposition is good for the nation and the two party system has served us well through most of our history. Traditionaly both parties were patriotic and held traditional social values based in judeo-Christian traditions. Were the parties differed was in economic policy, state vs federal power and taxation. Arguments about taxes, the place of unions in our economy and the level of government involvement with the economy were the highlight of the debate. Neither party advocated for socialism, communism, restrictions on free speech, or for extreme changes in our social values. Up until the turn of the century this is the way our two party system worked and it worked well.
Things have changed during this new century. Radicals have seized control of the Democratic Party. These radicals demand socialism, enforcement of political correctness through restrictions on free speech, elimination of the second amendment, the forcing of acceptance of gays, trannies and other sexual deviancy upon our society, the demonization of white America, open borders and all this being done in part through left wing violence and never ending protests.
I welcome a return to the old ways, the old two party system made our democracy what it was. It is obvious I am a conservative but there were a few democrats I chose to vote for years ago (more than 20 yrs). The sane moderate democrats of years ago have been driven from that party and mostly replaced by liberal firebrands. What do I want from the other side? If we are talking about this radical far left group that took over the Democratic Party then I want them defeated. Like any enemy of our country they should be crushed. I'll go even further and say they should be defeated by any means necessary, including revolution or civil war if necessary. The vision this far left group has for our country is so dangerous that we cannot tolerate the possibility of thier vision ever being implemented. We spent billions to prevent a soviet invasion, why should we tolerate it coming from radicalized elements of our own people? The left is a mortal enemy of freedom and the values this nation is supposed to stand upon. I'd rather see this nation burn than see them win.
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You don't think slavery is big government stepping on the rights of the individual? Just another attempt of yours in which you falsely testify what others are for. You're lost.
Quick align conservatives with Somalia before the thread ends. You still have time for that one.
I didn't go to your last point, but I want you to explain how big government steps on individual rights, and how we have "slavery"; I'll wait......
I do, The Cheeto isn't my pResident. So outside of this forum, I don't really know anything that's going on with him. I stopped watching the news after the election, and will resume when someone sane is President again
Ignorance is bliss. But that won't stop you from making things up and refusing to discuss policy.
I do, The Cheeto isn't my pResident. So outside of this forum, I don't really know anything that's going on with him. I stopped watching the news after the election, and will resume when someone sane is President again
what happened, I thought I was on ignore?
isn't it great how selective democracy works, denial denial denial - the anxiety meds industry must be doing record numbers
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A loyal opposition is good for the nation and the two party system has served us well through most of our history. Traditionaly both parties were patriotic and held traditional social values based in judeo-Christian traditions. Were the parties differed was in economic policy, state vs federal power and taxation. Arguments about taxes, the place of unions in our economy and the level of government involvement with the economy were the highlight of the debate. Neither party advocated for socialism, communism, restrictions on free speech, or for extreme changes in our social values. Up until the turn of the century this is the way our two party system worked and it worked well.
Things have changed during this new century. Radicals have seized control of the Democratic Party. These radicals demand socialism, enforcement of political correctness through restrictions on free speech, elimination of the second amendment, the forcing of acceptance of gays, trannies and other sexual deviancy upon our society, the demonization of white America, open borders and all this being done in part through left wing violence and never ending protests.
I welcome a return to the old ways, the old two party system made our democracy what it was. It is obvious I am a conservative but there were a few democrats I chose to vote for years ago (more than 20 yrs). The sane moderate democrats of years ago have been driven from that party and mostly replaced by liberal firebrands. What do I want from the other side? If we are talking about this radical far left group that took over the Democratic Party then I want them defeated. Like any enemy of our country they should be crushed. I'll go even further and say they should be defeated by any means necessary, including revolution or civil war if necessary. The vision this far left group has for our country is so dangerous that we cannot tolerate the possibility of thier vision ever being implemented. We spent billions to prevent a soviet invasion, why should we tolerate it coming from radicalized elements of our own people? The left is a mortal enemy of freedom and the values this nation is supposed to stand upon. I'd rather see this nation burn than see them win.
^^^^^This is what I'm talking about Loveshiscountry
Which artificially-imposed power structure, the Federal Government?
Hey start a thread on your ideological thoughts above, would be an interesting debate, Libertarians are always an interesting bunch.
I'll tentatively define coercion as the ability to interfere with, or deny outright, any individual's basic right to seek his/her individual goals (a/k/a "the pursuit of happiness") via interference with the individual's perceived right to (in increasing order of importance) autonomy, property, liberty, or life itself.
In any advanced socioeconomic system, some measure of coercion has to be reserved for civil authority (a/k/a "the state"). Traffic and weights/measures laws (curbs on autonomy) are the most obvious example. But the further state authority impinges upon and within the hierarchy of rights previously enumerated, the greater the potential for abuse and the greater the concern. Thus the most advanced democracies are more reluctant to take the life of even the most depraved individual (death penalty) or to totally deny a person's liberty via imprisonment -- though less so for the criminal element than for responsible citizens via conscription (a/k/a the draft).
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what happened, I thought I was on ignore?
isn't it great how selective democracy works, denial denial denial - the anxiety meds industry must be doing record numbers
You are, I clicked the option to open your post just to see what your response was, and this one as well.
And I don't take medication, I just look at the clown in the oval office and wonder if voters are really that stupid for about 5 mins, then go about my day
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