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Old 10-15-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Exactly...and those who defend his poor behavior are clueless as to what it is to be in a hurricane disaster area on an island. I respect the mayor for being there on the ground with her people. It shows compassion and humanity.

Not to mention, Trump had spent so much time attacking Puerto Rico that he barely acknowledged the U.S. Virgin Islands, that is still over 80 percent without power and water. The damage is extensive. But his comments really leave us wondering what is really going to happen to our islands. People are working...but there is so much to do. And it keeps raining...


she is grandstanding and she loves the cameras and media attention.......she is the mayor of the capital of P.R., she has a workforce under her, under the government's payroll, she doesn't need to be out there all the time grandstanding. Her job is to manage and delegate and let others do their jobs not act like she has to be everywhere when the cameras are on.


Trump is not "attacking'" Puerto Rico....he is saying the obvious about the politicians in P.R. who are running the show.

if your island has 80% without power that's on your government and the kind of power grid you guys have that it will take longer to fix. What do you want Trump to do, go in person and light a candle for you and hold your hand? tell me what do you want the taxpayers here to do? we already extended more funds for FEMA. This will take time to fix. Meanwhile, go report to your local officials and do other tasks to bring your island back instead of waiting for the federal government to do everything.

be happy you're alive and have internet access to come here and complain about the federal government and the President. What do you expect, you live in islands in the Caribbean that gets hurricanes and tropical storms every year and you choose to take the risks and live there and you got a category 5. You expect for Trump to rebuild your island and put a brand new power grid in 3 weeks and if he doesn't that means he doesn't care?......it doesn't work that way.


At least you are on a tropical island.....try being without gas and electricity in winter in minus zero tempatures up here in the northern states with 4 feet of snow and come back to me about your problems


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Old 10-15-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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So NO, he did not threaten anything. Just stated the obvious.
You live in PR. You've had no power for weeks and it's stifling hot. You've seen no one from FEMA. You're getting water from creeks and running out of food. You hear about this tweet. How do you feel?

Did he say anything about Fema not being able to stay in Texas or Florida? Would he?
 
Old 10-15-2017, 01:57 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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You live in PR. You've had no power for weeks and it's stifling hot. You've seen no one from FEMA. You're getting water from creeks and running out of food. You hear about this tweet. How do you feel?

Did he say anything about Fema not being able to stay in Texas or Florida? Would he?
For God's sake, you're not "going to see" anyone from FEMA unless you have an insurance claim or are eligible for monetary disaster assistance.

Who you should be seeing in your scenarios are the Red Cross, utility workers, rescue teams from the mainland, the PR National Guard, local firefighters and local police, among a few others like road crews.

FEMA doesn't have squads of the above who deploy, it's a logistic organizing and coordinating and money disbursing department. It also uses a triage model, most people soonest. Just like electric companies do when they're restoring power outages.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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she is grandstanding and she loves the cameras and media attention.......she is the mayor of the capital of P.R., she has a workforce under her, under the government's payroll, she doesn't need to be out there all the time grandstanding. Her job is to manage and delegate and let others do their jobs not act like she has to be everywhere when the cameras are on.


Trump is not "attacking'" Puerto Rico....he is saying the obvious about the politicians in P.R. who are running the show.

if your island has 80% without power that's on your government and the kind of power grid you guys have that it will take longer to fix. What do you want Trump to do, go in person and light a candle for you and hold your hand? tell me what do you want the taxpayers here to do? we already extended more funds for FEMA. This will take time to fix. Meanwhile, go report to your local officials and do other tasks to bring your island back instead of waiting for the federal government to do everything.

be happy you're alive and have internet access to come here and complain about the federal government and the President. What do you expect, you live in islands in the Caribbean that gets hurricanes and tropical storms every year and you choose to take the risks and live there and you got a category 5. You expect for Trump to rebuild your island and put a brand new power grid in 3 weeks and if he doesn't that means he doesn't care?......it doesn't work that way.


At least you are on a tropical island.....try being without gas and electricity in winter in minus zero tempatures up here in the northern states with 4 feet of snow and come back to me about your problems


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You folks really should acquaint yourselves with the Stafford Act: https://www.fema.gov/media-library-d...ectHSA2016.pdf
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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You live in PR. You've had no power for weeks and it's stifling hot. You've seen no one from FEMA. You're getting water from creeks and running out of food. You hear about this tweet. How do you feel?

Did he say anything about Fema not being able to stay in Texas or Florida? Would he?

ohhh please, it's 85 degrees in P.R. in a tropical island......try 110 degrees here in the desert in Arizona and Texas.

Fema is in P.R. for weeks so is the Navy, Army and National Guard.....if those people haven't seen the aid then where is the mayor of their town? under a rock?

the fact is they're stealing the aid and government employees and mayors at the local level are not doing their jobs.


but if they have NO POWER, that means they didn't read Trump's tweet that you are taking out of context and that's the least of their concern.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:04 PM
 
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I'm only going to address one thing, and this is straight out of FEMA protocols, the Mayor's and Governor's jobs are to go to the update and briefing meetings with FEMA and the other heads of responding groups to update reports from their departments. That's what they're supposed to be doing, not out, at least not all the time, blowing off the meeting, and then holding press conferences to complain about the response.
Is this part of the FEMA protocol too, a spa day for federal relief employees? https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/fed...relief-report/
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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You folks really should acquaint yourselves with the Stafford Act: https://www.fema.gov/media-library-d...ectHSA2016.pdf


this has 181 pages.....what part you want us to be acquainted with that is not being done in Puerto Rico?......please educate us.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:07 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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No it's not. And if true, since it's unsourced and unattributed so I doubt the veracity, should be dealt with appropriately.
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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this has 181 pages.....what part you want us to be acquainted with that is not being done in Puerto Rico?......please educate us.
Here I'll make it simple for you:

"The Stafford Act, which governs federal response to major disasters, says the government must provide help to Puerto Rico like it would to any other state. It doesn’t say that help should be based on the state’s financial health. If it did, that would mean the government should give less help to Illinois after a disaster because the state is nearly bankrupt.

Nor does it say disaster relief depends on how much it puts the budget “out of whack,” in Trump’s words. After all, the majority of states get more back from the federal government than they pay in taxes. One of them is Louisiana, where the federal government spent $9.9 billion rebuilding after Katrina. Nobody complained about the cost. In fact, President George W. Bush was criticized for not doing more for Katrina victims

In Texas, FEMA has provided $323 million worth of public assistance grants and has authorized both short-term emergency help and long-term rebuilding costs. It only took one week for Trump to ask Congress for extra relief money to help Texas rebuild critical infrastructure and to provide residents and businesses with low-interest recovery loans.

So far, Trump has only authorized the basic response for short-term emergency help in Puerto Rico, even though the island needs extensive work on infrastructure
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https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...axes-hurricane
 
Old 10-15-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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No it's not. And if true, since it's unsourced and unattributed so I doubt the veracity, should be dealt with appropriately.
Contact the Doctor who reported it and quit as a result, her email address is at the top of this document:
https://www.fda.gov/oc/advisory/CVs/...rnaCV_RCAC.pdf
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