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Old 10-30-2017, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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It is good to read in the indictment of Manafort that the Feds seem to know of almost every shell company and method Manafort used to hide his tax liability.

I hope just a complete job at looking at Trump.

See this article

https://www.propublica.org/article/h...ng-usual-taxes

It discusses how POTUS avoids gift taxes by transferring property to his son and intentionally under valuing them.

Yes his son made some payment, but no where near what the property is worth.

 
Old 10-30-2017, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Was that proven in court?
It was admitted to.
Hasn't been to court, yet.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 10:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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Trump needs to pardon himself all of his friends so they can stop wasting time and investigate who really matters: the loser from last year's election.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Trump needs to pardon himself all of his friends so they can stop wasting time and investigate who really matters: the loser from last year's election.
Yes, the sore one who still won due to arcane system.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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So Manafort didn't pay his taxes in 2006 when he was possibly working for the Clintons in collusion with the Russians and the FBI has had a dossier on his since 2012....okay, arrest him and lock him up but this has absolutely nothing to do with Trump conspiring with the Russians (Didn't happen other than the Fake Trump Dossier paid for by the Clintons to the Russians to make up some lies on Trump).


Trump is going to crush the Swamp in Nov 2020.
Very odd that Mueller apparently knew of Manafort's alleged crimes in 2012 when he was running the FBI for the Obama administration and did nothing.

A tax audit comparing assets/lifestyle/expenses vs. declared income would have yielded most of what is in the current indictment.

Why did the FBI drop the ball on this and allow Manafort to be walking around free to meddle in national politics? All of a sudden Mueller is able to do in 6 months what he and Comey couldn't do in 5 years? Very strange.
 
Old 10-30-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Manafort isn't the key to Trump, Papodddoplous is.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Very odd that Mueller apparently knew of Manafort's alleged crimes in 2012 when he was running the FBI for the Obama administration and did nothing.

A tax audit comparing assets/lifestyle/expenses vs. declared income would have yielded most of what is in the current indictment.

Why did the FBI drop the ball on this and allow Manafort to be walking around free to meddle in national politics? All of a sudden Mueller is able to do in 6 months what he and Comey couldn't do in 5 years? Very strange.
Mueller and Comey knew that Manafort hadn't paid taxes years ago as heads of FBI and they used this excuse to start this faux Russian Collusion Delusion...how sad and desperate the Dims are to make such a big deal about nothing related to the election.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Mueller and Comey knew that Manafort hadn't paid taxes years ago as heads of FBI and they used this excuse to start this faux Russian Collusion Delusion...how sad and desperate the Dims are to make such a big deal about nothing related to the election.
Uh, yeah no... this is called justice. Something 28 months with Benghazi couldn't prove, even after partisan hack, partisan hack, partisan hack.

Team Trump is circling the drain of the swamp, lol.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Robert Mueller is a registered Republican.
He may or may not be but he hired partisan Hillary devotees for his team. Anyway, there's noting about these allegations that relate to Trump, the election, or "the Russians." Mueller and Comey have known for years that Manafort wasn't paying his taxes but did nothing until after Trump was elected.
 
Old 10-31-2017, 02:58 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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The Mueller gang will never focus on Democrats. This is the establishment seeking to undo the election.
Actually, he should not be allowed to do so, to get right down to it he should not be allowed to focus on anyone. Rosenstein had directed Mueller (under 28 CFR 600) to find a crime that doesn't exist, there is no such thing as collusion*. Plus, Mueller is implicated in the UO deal. Because of those things, anyone who Mueller files charges against, Manafort, Gates, Papodddoplous, Podesta and anyone else that is charged just might walk, and those people probably know it (because they know it they probably won't flip on anyone). NO, I'm not defending them and I would love to see our government cleaned up, I'm just stating the way the law works.
Which is why Mueller SHOULD NOT be the one to investigate anyone. Mueller (and even Rosenstein) is tainted by that UO scandal and anyone that he might finger, for example, Hillary, would use that against him, and they would probably walk.

*There is no such thing as 'collusion' except in anti-trust matters, not in political elections or campaigns. If anyone disagrees with me on that, please show me the criminal code (a hint, there is none)
Under the FEC it IS lawful for foreign nationals to be involved in campaigns, as long as no money changes hands (52 USC 30101).
https://www.fec.gov/updates/foreign-nationals/

As far as i know, no money was involved during Jr's talk with the Russian lawyer. Anyone care to prove that money changed hands in that matter?
Hillary and the DNC, that's another matter since money did change hands, and, they filed false or misleading campaign reports to hide the fact that they'd paid for that dossier (52 USC 30121).

Mueller is dirty, and, he was charged to find a crime that doesn't exist. People who are charged by Mueller will probably walk. (Mueller knows this, apparently the cover-up is more important to him, wonder how much evidence has been destroyed to make sure things stay buried)
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