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Old 11-05-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Wilbur Ross became a board member of Navigator in 2012 but the commerce department said he was not on the board when Navigator signed its charter deal with Sibur that year.
But Mr Ross was still a board member during the period from March to November 2014, when the US was sanctioning Russians over the annexation of Crimea, including Mr Timchenko and Mr Mikhelson's company, Novatek.
During that period Navigator continued to increase its business with Sibur. The energy firm accounted for 9.1% of Navigator's total revenues in 2015, compared with 5.3% in 2014, Navigator's own filings show.
Mr Ross left Navigator's board in November 2014 but his seat was taken by Ross group partner Wendy Teramoto, who served on it until 2017. There is no suggestion Mr Ross has violated any rules.


So Ross was on the board of Sibur from 2012 to 2014 when Trump had not even decided to run for office yet. These guys are really reaching. Furthermore, The Obama administration in 2012 made very clear that Russia was NOT a threat and openly laughed and mocked Mitt Romney for suggesting that Russia was a threat. Obama declared the 80's called and want their foreign policy back. and this was after they attacked Crimea and shot down a domestic plane that flew through their airspace.

You people on the left can not have it both ways. All I have heard the past 8 years Obama was in office how we need to have a world economy. Well, this is what globalism looks like. It's not just free trade with China and Mexico. It's business dealings with Russia and other questionable entities. Trump, Ross, Manafort, Cuban and all the other billionaires do what they do best, leverage their business interest to maximize profit. If Clinton had won the for sale sign would have appeared on the Whitehouse lawn with a sold sign on top and NO one would have batted an eye. Enough of this nonsense. E N O U G H! Grow up already.
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Old 11-05-2017, 08:58 PM
 
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What happened to I appoint the best people?? Yeah the best to enrich themselves and lie about their Russian ties. What is it with his people. Damn next thing I'm gonna hear is that Ben Carson is doing some shady stuff. It never ends with his appointees.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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What happened to I appoint the best people?? Yeah the best to enrich themselves and lie about their Russian ties. What is it with his people. Damn next thing I'm gonna hear is that Ben Carson is doing some shady stuff. It never ends with his appointees.
He did. And, best is that when Trump doesn't see results they are fired not reassigned some tit job in the administration. There is no failing upward in the Trump Presidency.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Mr Ross owns at least 4 LLC's which own stock in the aforementioned article. Yes he is hiding his ownership thanks to that Lawyer Group.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Gone
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So is this the "smoking guns" libs?

While I've thoroughly enjoyed your hysteria over the last past 2 years I'm getting a little bored with the Putin-Trump stuff (though the Pikachu connection a few weeks back was awesome).

So let's see how Pence ruffles your feathers. Bring on Pence!

Unfortunately there are several smoking guns, maybe you missed that.


While I disagree with his very conservative stand on social issues, I can live with Pence, at least he is sane.
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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These papers implicated Tillerson, Wilbur Ross, and Jared Kushner.

Wow. The entire Trump administration are agents of Putin. Of course us smart people already knew that. Trump supporters still live in an alternate reality where this is totally normal and ok.
You smart people....
Are you the same smart, arrogant, elitist bunch that thought Hillary Clinton was a good choice for president?
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Old 11-05-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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You smart people....
Are you the same smart, arrogant, elitist bunch that thought Hillary Clinton was a good choice for president?
No. But next to Trump? Christ, that woman was like Einstein, Mother Theresa and Churchill rolled into one.
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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...Why would having Russia control our government be worse than what we've had for the last 50 years under the mainstream media's anti-democratic rule?
I'm sure you would love life under Putin, now there's some real freedom for you! Is this what our schools are turning out theses days, or are you guys self-taught by studying Breitbart and other alt-right news outlets?!?

After hearing about all the Russian ads and fake news read by millions of conservatives, would it be a surprise if some Russian symps were posting on popular forums like this?
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Seven million pages of info on off-shore dealings involving major corporations, billionaires, Putin's inner circle of oligarchs, and more.

Such a massive release from a Bermuda-based law firm that specializes in setting up shell corporations for legally risky and unethical transactions.

Stay tuned...

https://www.icij.org/investigations/...est-1-percent/

First up appears to be Commerce Sec'y Wilbur Ross, who is doing business with Putin companies at the same time he's involved with those sanctions against Russia.

I think we'll be hearing a lot more about this.



The Center for Public Integrity (your source) is supported by the Open Society Foundation which is supported by George Soros.


George Soros - Discover the Networks


https://www.publicintegrity.org/abou...ork/supporters


https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about






No doubt he wants to recover his $10.5 million investment in Hillary.


https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...s?id=n00000019






As for Trump's inner circle, if you are trying to make the case that people with a lot of money don't want to bring their wealth to the US, you may be on to something.






"Several members of Trump's inner circle, including Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and chief economic adviser Gary Cohn, were mentioned in the papers. The Times, which mentioned both men, said there was 'no evidence of illegality in any of their dealings."'


What you need to know about the Paradise Papers - Nov. 5, 2017
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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These papers implicated Tillerson, Wilbur Ross, and Jared Kushner.

Wow. The entire Trump administration are agents of Putin. Of course us smart people already knew that. Trump supporters still live in an alternate reality where this is totally normal and ok.



"Implicated"?


Do tell.....
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