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Do I really want to give a despicable jerk who scalded a baby in boiling water a fair trial?
Yes....because that is his right.
Owning a car, driving a car is not under the Constitution........guns (and fair trials) are.
Apples and oranges.
The Constitution only guarantees gun ownership as part of a "well-regulated" - well-trained - militia. It also says that laws shall not impinge on your right to own a gun (of some sort.) That does not mean you have the right to own ANY firearm you want, nor does it mean that there's no way to do something to lose that right, such as being a violent thug or mentally ill nutball.
Or, are we going to pretend that since I have the right to walk freely up and down my street, "everyone" should have the same right, therefore we should empty all the prisons? It's the same crackpot, right-wing logic. Rights can be lost by one's actions; if you don't understand that fundamental truth, than you don't have any understanding at all of the basics of civilization or a just society.
So long as the government doesn't basically take away ALL the guns, they are still well-within what is defined in the Constitution. You do NOT have the "right" to buy a pile of military grade weapons while being a drunken, violent, or demonstrably mentally-ill thug - that is NOT what the Constitution guarantees.
The far-right wallows in hypocrisy and a failure to understand what matters in society. They actually think that there should be NO action or condition that should revoke one's right to own device that can easily murder people, and yet they they also think that the "wrong" kind of sex, marriage, and religion should be prohibited by law. I have no respect for a party that believes such idiotic nonsense, particularly when it costs this nation lives every single day.
You don't seem to have much relevant to say. This demonstrates it yet again.It was absolutely OF THE PEOPLE.
He got the majority of votes in 50% more states than Hillary Clinton.
What's hard to understand about that? Do you actually think the people in the battleground state of NC care how they voted in California?
Do you actually think your funny attempts to redefine what the popular vote is fools anyone?
Trump lost the popular vote. Stop trying to redefine what "OF THE PEOPLE" means to suit your laughably partisan agenda. And even if Trump DID win the popular vote, he's still a worthless, egotistical, incompetent, immature sexual predator who pays neither his taxes or his employees. As horrible as Hillary was, leave it to the far-right to come up with a worse candidate, for they are never to be outdone when it comes to failure.
The real funny part: if Trump had run as independent or Democrat, the far-right would never have voted for him. But - like sheep - the moment he slaps a "R" after his name, they'll blindly support him and pretend that he's perfect. The partisan nonsense is so transparent and utterly laughable.
You don't seem to have much relevant to say. This demonstrates it yet again.It was absolutely OF THE PEOPLE.
He got the majority of votes in 50% more states than Hillary Clinton.
What's hard to understand about that?
Do you actually think the people in the battleground state of NC care how they voted in California?
I love your unbridled denialism. So then, oh wise one, what was the final vote tally for Trump and Clinton? I could look it up but I think you like your crow slow roasted.
Your analogy is garbage. I assume you think guns are acceptable. Do you feel the same about rape?
Is owning firearms "unacceptable." That's an interesting statement. To flatly state that owning firearms is "unacceptable"takes your personal opinion a bridge to far. A great many people feel very differently. Every day, many times a day, across this country, people use firearms to defend themselves and those they love from violent, and armed, predators.
A very large percentage of those predators want something that value cannot be placed on. When someone has to use lethal force in defense of life it is nothing like the anti firearms propaganda paints it to be. Nor are the people who carry guns for defensive purposes the blood thirsty killers that same propaganda portrays.
An armed citizen is under a different set of rules from everyone else. The rules we follow are even stricter than those governing law enforcement officers. There is this comepletely false representation of armed citizens carrying a gun because it brings a feeling of power and control. Armed men in particular are targeted this way and portrayed as having feelings of inferior manhood and compensate by carrying a firearm. And it's all a bald faced lie. In situations that even people such as yourself would feel the need to act with force, the mouthy drunk making sexually explicit comments about ones lady and following you out of the restaurant pushing the issue is a good example, you are under strict obligation to retreat, ignore, even placate. Being armed means you must put up with things most people flat would not.
There is no power of any kind that goes with being armed. If you are carrying concealed you cannot flash you're weapon to some cretin as a warning. As a matter of fact doing so is a crime. Being armed means you must adopt as pacifistic a demeanor as humanly possible. Now, if the mouthy drunk pushes you and then gropes your lady, displays a knife or firearm of his own as a threat, then you may act. Until someone has demonstrated that they are a threat of possible death or great bodily harm to you or another person, you must retreat, even grovel if that's what it takes to avoid having to use your weapon.
Carrying a firearm does nothing to boost someone's ego. It does improve ones skills in diplomacy. Overtly threatening situations where you are accosted and a weapon is displayed are not like what you see in movies where the granite jawed action hero makes some cute one liner before drawing his weapon and dispatching multiple bad guys and then going for coffee either. If you have had to use your weapon, you had better stay put and wait for the police, ensuring that your gun is in plain view and not in your hand, and your hands are on your head. As a matter of fact, it's a good idea to be on the ground well before they tell you to be with your weapon out of reach.
This is the point where things get really fun. Oh yea. Much depends on the officers and how they assess things, and just what circumstances led to you using your weapon. But you will still be taken in, your weapon taken into evidence and you will be extensively questioned. Even if the cops see a clear cut case of self defense, they have procedures that must be followed.
Lets put it this way, guns are quite "acceptable". Firearms owners are not obnoxious jerks who play know it all and throw around the "power" feeling that carrying a weapon supposedly brings. Because there is no such "power." We are NOT walking around out here looking for any excuse to even show our weapon, let alone use it. We are however prepared to defend ourselves and our loved ones should the true need arise, and we are fully aware that having to do so will not see us treated as any sort of "hero."
So, do yourself a favor. Drop your misconceptions and perhaps reexamine your hatred and contempt of armed citizens. We are not what you have been led to believe. I would welcome a civil discourse about this and I will be happy to answer any questions you may have. I will add that I am an assistant instructor for CCW and it's my job to educate and prepare citizens who have decided to be armed in what awaits in the real world. There is a LOT to cover in that regard.
You don't seem to have much relevant to say. This demonstrates it yet again.It was absolutely OF THE PEOPLE.
He got the majority of votes in 50% more states than Hillary Clinton.
What's hard to understand about that?
Do you actually think the people in the battleground state of NC care how they voted in California?
You didn't choose your president. At least in Canada the leader of the winning party who became PM, did it without a " board " of people deciding, but won because he won the most ridings.
What sucks is the 60-70 percent tax that they have to pay.
Yes, but I strongly suspect if you add up the amount of money you pay in this nation to private companies, you don't end up that much different. There is no such thing as "free health care" or "free education," and for all the times I rightly blast right-wing idiocy, they are correct on that count - somebody is paying.
But on the flip side, there's a strange illness on the far-right where if you pay a big pile of money to the government for your taxes, health-care, and education, it's "evil!" but if you pay the same amount of money to a mix of government and unaccountable private corporation, it's somehow "good!" and they just pretend the big chunk of money that doesn't go to the government somehow isn't coming out of their wallet. Heck, it's almost if they think that anything that is NOT paid for by taxes is "free" in a twisted way.
You can't cheat physics, nor can you cheat basic economics. I seriously doubt people in high-tax, socialist nations actually pay that much more of their incomes vs. what we pay if we total up EVERYTHING we're paying, including the stuff to the sacred private corporations that somehow those on the far-right never count. You also have to look at the quality of what you're getting - paying 10% less to get 20% less in service is not really a savings, even though too many people in this nation are focused way too much on the cost vs. what you get for it. After all, America is the same nutty nation where people will drive for miles to pay 1 cent less at the gas pump - there's a very serious lack of understanding of other costs in America.
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