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Old 11-07-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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The fact that there are so many ghettos in the US and that they're so violent still reflects on the country as a whole.

These are problems that need to be addressed, not swept under the rug.
Totally agree. And they are ALL in Democrat controlled cities who seem to like the status quo just fine. In fact in some cities, the police won't even go into certain neighborhoods. Address inner city gang/drug violence, and the crime stats will go WAY down.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:50 PM
 
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We have by far the most guns of any country on Earth with the highest rates of gun ownership. We also have the overwhelming majority of gun deaths, especially of women and children on the planet.

The safest countries on Earth have lower gun ownership and heavy gun restriction.


Which should not be the case based on pro-gun talking points. We should be the safest in the world with so many people owning guns.

Why the contradiction?
No contradiction. Given the fact that our government has never enslaved its citizens in the centuries after the Constitutional right was enacted, it's been a great success.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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No contradiction. Given the fact that our government has never enslaved its citizens in the centuries after the Constitutional right was enacted, it's been a great success.
Also, most violent crime committed with a gun are by criminals with records using illegally obtained guns. Legal gun owner commit very little violent crime.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:53 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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They don't consider Black Americans to be true Americans, so they are dismissing murders committed by Black Americans cuz it's not real Muricans

Who is "they?" Just curious. As to Black Americans, I have long been advocating for a reexamination of the Black communities that are plauged by violent crime and gangs. Hispanic communities figure n in a big way as well. These people are living under criminal oppression. Pure and simple, and they have been denied the lawful means, their right, to fight back. There are a LOT of honest, decent ,law abiding folks in these communities who would like nothing better than to bust the gangs and other criminals square in the chops.


Allowing these people to arm, train and organize community militias would accomplish just that. As I have said before, re establish the CMP and give it the resources it desperately needs. Task it with equipping and training the decent people in these beat down communities. I would personally volunteer to fight alongside them. They are "real" Americans. Let them be just that. Allow them to take back and defend themselves, their loved ones and their community. Let these SUVs full of bangers trying to shoot up neighborhoods run up against dedicated and motivated citizens with M1Garands and 1911 A1s. Or whatever else the newly rejuvenated CMP can provide.


It may not be pretty at first, and the disarmament advocates heads would be exploding, but it would be effective. The militia and the security of a free state mentioned in the 2A is not by any means limited to foreign invasion or government coup. Defending against criminal threats is quite covered in the duties and purpose of the ability to form militia.


Fight crime! Shoot back! It the American way. There are no skin color barriers when it comes to personal and community security and safety. The biggest problem we have with violence is that the violence is not being done upon the criminals.
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Old 11-07-2017, 02:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If more guns make us safer, why are we not the safest country?


More guns don't make us safer.

More guns combined with the freedom to carry them anywhere we like, makes us safer. Too bad the gun control advocates keep refusing us that freedom... in direct violation of the U.S. Constitution.

If all laws restricting gun ownership and carry were repealed, most people still wouldn't bother to carry a gun. But a few would. nd some guy planning to mug and old lady, or assault someone at an ATM - or even shoot up a church in Texas - wouldn't know if someone in the crowd nearby was carrying in a pocket or purse. But he could be fairly sure that a one or two people were.

And some criminals would decide not to commit their crime in the first place because of that. Presto - a reduction in crime. And without a shot being fired.

The problem is not the number of guns. It's the lack of freedom for responsible, law-abiding people to carry them.

Guns are not the problem. "Gun control" is the problem.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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Please check to see who commits 50% of all murders.
How about who commits 99% of the mass murders?

( I agree with the poster that said, its our violent culture to blame, and specifically not to mention that an individual's proclivity for violence- especially domestic violence - is tolerated in many cases instead of being taken seriously.)
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Left coast
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If more guns make us safer, why are we not the safest country?


More guns don't make us safer.

More guns combined with the freedom to carry them anywhere we like, makes us safer. Too bad the gun control advocates keep refusing us that freedom... in direct violation of the U.S. Constitution.

If all laws restricting gun ownership and carry were repealed, most people still wouldn't bother to carry a gun. But a few would. nd some guy planning to mug and old lady, or assault someone at an ATM - or even shoot up a church in Texas - wouldn't know if someone in the crowd nearby was carrying in a pocket or purse. But he could be fairly sure that a one or two people were.

And some criminals would decide not to commit their crime in the first place because of that. Presto - a reduction in crime. And without a shot being fired.

The problem is not the number of guns. It's the lack of freedom for responsible, law-abiding people to carry them.

Guns are not the problem. "Gun control" is the problem.
I am sure (sarcasm) that the Wild Wild West was a real hoot to live in.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I am sure (sarcasm) that the Wild Wild West was a real hoot to live in.
The "wild wild west" was a fiction. It never existed except in the minds of fiction writers.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:13 PM
 
Location: California
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Default If more guns make us safer, why are we not the safest country?

Guns are just a tool, crazy people are the problem.
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Old 11-07-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: 89434
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That's because criminals account for the largest ownership of guns, and commit many shootings especially in inner-city areas of Los Angeles, Chicago, Detroit, etc... (Which are ran by the dems/libs).
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