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Old 11-08-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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Since government hasn't ended poverty, I assume you feel it's time to cut off all welfare programs right?

It's all or nothing in your book.

I'll give up guns if you'll give up government that hasn't fixed every problem.
What are you talking about? You’re more dependent on government handouts than I’ve EVER been. Who are you kidding? You need to lay off making bets that would cause you to starve to death if they ever came to fruition. Believe me....I have never bought the whole “I hate government” mantra from you Conservatives. You guys are just blowing ideological smoke. It’s phony. Usually when I hear it, I hit you with a shot of Eff Off Spray.

Now that I’ve caught you pump faking, back to the topic...

No one is asking you to give up guns. You’re no more of a gun guy than I am. You might own a few pee shooters, but you aren’t about to pop anything. In fact, giving you more guns is a good way to make sure they’ll never get used.

The point is that this notion of “more guns makes us all safer” is baloney. Whether you give up your guns or not is immaterial. But MORE guns doesn’t benefit anyone but gun manufacturers. Just admit that and move on.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:08 AM
 
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There are a number of correct answers to your question.......... but a couple are
1. For some reason despite his record of violence and mental issues the shooter wasn't in the data base.
2. There was not an armed citizen at the door of the church or inside. (I am not advocating this)
True.

Only another gun will stop a madman on a killing spree, and that didn't appear to be the case until the neighbor arrived.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:10 AM
 
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What are you talking about? You’re more dependent on government handouts than I’ve EVER been. Who are you kidding? You need to lay off making bets that would cause you to starve to death if they ever came to fruition. Believe me....I have never bought the whole “I hate government” mantra from you Conservatives. You guys are just blowing ideological smoke. It’s phony. Usually when I hear it, I hit you with a shot of Eff Off Spray.

Now that I’ve caught you pump faking, back to the topic...

No one is asking you to give up guns. You’re no more of a gun guy than I am. You might own a few pee shooters, but you aren’t about to pop anything. In fact, giving you more guns is a good way to make sure they’ll never get used.

The point is that this notion of “more guns makes us all safer” is baloney. Whether you give up your guns or not is immaterial. But MORE guns doesn’t benefit anyone but gun manufacturers. Just admit that and move on.
Nice deflection.

Of course we know you won't use logic.

Besides, statistics show that you're much more likely to be receiving government handouts than me. That is a FACT.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:14 AM
 
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Nice deflection.

Of course we know you won't use logic.

Besides, statistics show that you're much more likely to be receiving government handouts than me. That is a FACT.
Which statistic? The one based on college education married to someone else with a college education, military experience, and having two professional parents?

That statistic?
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:16 AM
 
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Which statistic? The one based on college education married to someone else with a college education, military experience, and having two professional parents?

That statistic?
Most likely every stsatistic including race.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:17 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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If men felt more secure- maybe would not act like cowards hiding a big ole gun--killing a whole neighborhood to feel manly?
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:18 AM
 
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The point is that this notion of “more guns makes us all safer” is baloney. Whether you give up your guns or not is immaterial. But MORE guns doesn’t benefit anyone but gun manufacturers. Just admit that and move on.
Ok, let's see.
1. I have a CCW from my county, so I'm sitting in my synagogue with my Glock. A mass shooter come inside and starts to shoot. I'm getting my glock, returning fire, killing the POS.

2. I don't have CCW from my county, because it's a liberal non-issue county in California, no glock, I cannot stop the murderer.

When there will be more deaths?
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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Most likely every stsatistic including race.
Race? Oh...so that would make you more likely to be some dirt poor bloke living in a Texas trailer park, right?

What other statistic? You know.....besides race, which in all honesty was the ONLY statistic you were talking about.

Come on, be a real southerner and let it all out. Don’t be coy now!
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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If men felt more secure- maybe would not act like cowards hiding a big ole gun--killing a whole neighborhood to feel manly?
Before guns, it's was swords and arrows.

If the wish actually could be fulfilled and guns magically went away, they would still kill using other means.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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Race? Oh...so that would make you more likely to be some dirt poor bloke living in a Texas trailer park, right?

What other statistic? You know.....besides race, which on all honesty was the ONLY statistic you were talking about.

Come on, be a real southerner and let it all out. Don’t be coy now!
Don't worry, I'm certain you have 20 PhDs sitting next to your NASA space shuttle pilot's certificate.

Now, get back to the deep fryer.
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