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Old 11-08-2017, 05:17 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Based on what statistics?

I hope you're being facetious.
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Old 11-08-2017, 05:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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There has been a solution available to us for years now. Centuries, in fact.

If all laws restricting gun ownership and carry were repealed, most people still wouldn't bother to carry a gun. But a few would. And some guy planning to mug an old lady, or assault someone at an ATM - or even shoot up a church in Texas - wouldn't know if someone in the crowd nearby was carrying in a pocket or purse. But he could be fairly sure that a one or two people were.

And some criminals would decide not to commit their crime in the first place because of that. Presto - a reduction in crime. And without a shot being fired.

And when a few truly insane ones go ahead and commit the crime anyway, let's just say their recidivism rate does down suddenly.

A good solution, producing far better and safer results than anything the so-called "gun control" advocate have ever offered.

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Old 11-08-2017, 08:19 PM
 
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If more guns make us safer, why are we not the safest country?
If I make up a silly strawman position that no one holds, why won't anyone come and defend that silly position that they don't hold?
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Old 11-08-2017, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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If I make up a silly strawman position that no one holds, why won't anyone come and defend that silly position that they don't hold?
So you agree that the proliferation of firearms does not make things safer?
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I don't need to watch movies. I participated in real gunfights in urban areas in Israeli wars.
Body armor? You should take into account the psychological effect of "my god, i'm been shot!" and the fact that even with body armor you still get a real cinetyc hit that can push you off your feet.
You were at war- if a policeman leaves out in the morn- he know some time that day he may have to draw his/her weapon-soldier the same fed agent the same-- Are you going to church, grocery store, gym- kids school-- etc - all locked and loaded ready to shoot??? sir you need counseling - NOBODY should walk in that much fear on a daily basis in this country-

I have a semi auto in closet locked up for some very extreme times should they ever come- in the meantime I live my life and go about my business. This business of mass shooting is about insecure men-
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:35 AM
 
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You were at war- if a policeman leaves out in the morn- he know some time that day he may have to draw his/her weapon-soldier the same fed agent the same-- Are you going to church, grocery store, gym- kids school-- etc - all locked and loaded ready to shoot??? sir you need counseling - NOBODY should walk in that much fear on a daily basis in this country-

I have a semi auto in closet locked up for some very extreme times should they ever come- in the meantime I live my life and go about my business. This business of mass shooting is about insecure men-
I bet he also has life insurance when he is on the couch watching tv or in bed asleep even though he hasn't had to use it yet.
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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So you agree that the proliferation of firearms does not make things safer?
It is the proliferation of CRIMINALS that does not make "thing safer".
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Old 11-09-2017, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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I bet he also has life insurance when he is on the couch watching tv or in bed asleep even though he hasn't had to use it yet.
Does he walk around with his ins paper in hand everywhere? what are you all thinking- the Russians are invading us? the Chinese? N koreans ,, tell me what is the BIG wait? what are you loaded up for ?
Me in the city (4 miles from downtown) have my stuff in the closet--for possible civil unrest or zombies-- neither which I expect in my lifetime.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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We have by far the most guns of any country on Earth with the highest rates of gun ownership. We also have the overwhelming majority of gun deaths, especially of women and children on the planet.

The safest countries on Earth have lower gun ownership and heavy gun restriction.


Which should not be the case based on pro-gun talking points. We should be the safest in the world with so many people owning guns.

Why the contradiction?



Two thirds of those homicides are actually suicides.


The overwhelming number of the actual homicides are committed by blacks.


Mass murders could be curtailed by ending gun-free zones.
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Old 11-09-2017, 06:08 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Without proper background checks and the ability to check manufacturers we will see more and more incident's as the mentally ill get more and more weapons.
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