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Old 11-11-2017, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Originally Posted by Sydney123 View Post
Just how do you propose that they were able to confirm something that happened close to 40 years ago? When so far all there is is he said, she said.
For about the half-dozenth time in this section ...

Roy Moore's former colleague: It was 'common knowledge' that Moore 'dated high school girls'
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A former colleague of Roy Moore's told CNN on Saturday that it was "common knowledge" that he "dated high school girls" when he was in his 30s....

Theresa Jones used to work as a deputy district attorney in the same courthouse as Moore, and she told CNN on Saturday that "everyone we knew thought it was weird" that Moore dated girls significantly younger than he was.

"We wondered why someone his age would hang out at high school football games and the mall, but you really wouldn't say anything to someone like that," she added.
There are many people besides the girls under discussion who can confirm Moore's behavior. In the minds of the cons here, it seems that everybody who claims this is lying.

 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Victim blaming, how nice. People like you are the reason women are afraid to come out against the perpetrators in the first place.



I'm guessing the vast majority of these "victims" were willing participants at the time and only decided to become victims when realized they could simply pile on for a slice of the pie.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:27 PM
 
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When they were "molested" they may have been starstruck. They may have "decided" they were abused after listening to the drumbeat of news.
What a despicable thing to say. You demean and belittle every woman or girl who was ever harassed, molested or otherwise victimized by an older, bigger, stronger or more powerful man. And there are millions upon millions of us out here.

It's people like you who have successfully kept women silent all these years. But your time is over.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by natalie469 View Post
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Don't you ever, ever blame the victim. This is why they don't come forward because of people like you.


Really?


That's weird because their actions speak much louder than their words and their actions scream sleazy opportunists, both then and now.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Of course, it doesn't. I'm just saying its politically motivated.

Do you believe it isn't politically motivated?
No. But like a lot of surprise revelations, it has political consequences.

Moore is far from the first whose sordid past has suddenly reared up to bite him on the butt.

He's far from the most powerful politician to be laid low by his sexual hanky-panky, too. We both could think of bigger guys that have met their sudden political demise over sex than him. In either party. And if anything, 2016 showed us sexual charges don't have the power they once had.

For sure, the initial tip-off to the WaPo reporters had some motivations behind it, but we don't know what they are. You're only guessing it's political.

We're talking about a judge here, so the motivation could be revenge, or simply because Moore is such an overweening jerk.

And those are just my guesses. Your guess is no better than mine, and there are other reasons neither one of us have mentioned.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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I'm guessing the vast majority of these "victims" were willing participants at the time and only decided to become victims when realized they could simply pile on for a slice of the pie.
Yes, you are guessing. You have no idea how hard it is for an underaged and naive person to process what is happening to them.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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You can't forget George Takei (Oh My!)
Oh my god, I feel molested everytime I hear his voice!
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:54 PM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Operation Yewtree was discussed in David Blaine Accused of Rape. The length of time makes many of these accusations hard to defend. If the abuser is dead he can't defend himself. And after 30 years it may be almost as hard to locate witnesses or other physical evidence. How do you for example get a hold of exonerating evidence such as semen-less clothes or hotel linens?

Or do we have to assume the charges are true because of the gender of the accuser?
You are implying that the women were lying because of their gender? What is wrong with this forum?

Going to repost my post since you cut half of it.

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A similar snowball effect is happening to what happened in Britain about 6 years ago.

A nationally known children's 'celebrity', Jimmy Savile died, and after he died, a ton of women came forward to say they had been molested by him when they were kids. Apparently it was WIDELY known what he was getting up to but he got away with it all those years because he raised millions every year for children's charities and hospitals. The BBC was widely blamed for being aware of it but not doing anything about it.

After that there was an avalanche of accusations levelled at other TV and radio presenters and comedians and the like from women who said they had been sexually abused by these people. There were some surprises and some people the public wouldn't have been the least bit surprised about.
An enquiry was opened to investigate all the allegations named 'operation Yewtree'.
Many men were investigated and tried and sent to jail, many others were declared not guilty.

You can read about it the whole thing here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Yewtree
In Saviles case, the women came forward after he died because they were afraid to come forward while he was still alive. He had been abusing kids for decades not decades ago. After Savile died it became public that everybody had heard the rumours of what he was up to for years and years but everyone was reluctant to say anything because of the millions worth of hospital equipment he provided every year.
Not sure if you are implying the allegations against Saville are doubtful. If you are in any doubt read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_..._abuse_scandal
The evidence is extensive.


As for the rest of those convicted you can read about those individually as well. Gary Glitter for example had 4000 images of child pornography on his computer. People are not jailed for no reason.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 10:54 PM
 
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I'm guessing the vast majority of these "victims" were willing participants at the time and only decided to become victims when realized they could simply pile on for a slice of the pie.
A 14 year old boy gets hit on by Kevin Spacey and he is a willing participant?

But for many its either they participate or the have little chance of making it in the entertainment business. Or they have to ignore raunchy behavior or chance losing their careers.

A lot of these people coming forward are doing fine financially. Many are not cashing in on this.
 
Old 11-11-2017, 11:06 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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For about the half-dozenth time in this section ...

Roy Moore's former colleague: It was 'common knowledge' that Moore 'dated high school girls'

There are many people besides the girls under discussion who can confirm Moore's behavior. In the minds of the cons here, it seems that everybody who claims this is lying.
I am not saying anyone is lying.... I am asking what "evidence" is there that "confirms" Wapo's report. If he did in fact do it I hope that they fry him. I was raped and beaten to a pulp when I was 21 so I have no use for sexual predators what so ever. But in our country the "innocent until proven guilty" should apply to everyone.
I did notice that you didn't say that any of former colleagues said that they knew first hand that he raped her, only that he dated high school girls. You and some others already have him tried and convicted so I can only surmise ( without any concrete evidence so far) that your rant is politically motivated or... you have no clue as to how the law works. I am also pretty sure that a lot of men date high school girls, but that doesn't make them rapists on the face of it.
How about waiting until a proper investigation happens before running your mouth and making unfounded
Accusations, based on your political leanings and stating them as facts.
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