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Old 11-29-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Oh really?

Your choice of a life partner is no accident | Science | AAAS

People hardwired to fall in love with partners with similar level of intelligence | Daily Mail Online

Intelligence is partly based off of genes. So my scenario is not outrageous, but almost certainly, true.
That is doubtful, there are smart-dumb couples all the time
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Old 11-29-2017, 07:15 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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According to some, yes.

In the 19th century, the rich believed they were chosen by God to be so. In modern times, we have the Prosperity Gospel.
(laughing)

Oh, OK, I get it now. This is doubtless why the Christ was crucified on a cross of gold, yes?

& here I thought William Jennings Bryan was merely being grandiloquent when he railed against the gold standard. My bad.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:10 PM
 
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Sadly and unfortunately that hits the nail on the head. There should be some mechanism, however, for identifying smarter kids in such schools and moving them to a magnet school or other arrangement.
I have a nephew that was a straight A student in a middle school ranked at around 240 out of 315. He's since graduated, moved and now attends a high school that's ranked 5 out of 215.

This is the first time he's ever scored D's and E's in any class at any other school. He was woefully unprepared for the amount of studying required.

Fortunately he's been able to turn things around but it angered me that his prior school gave him such a false sense of competence and achievement. I know they do this with a completely self serving agenda.
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Gates, Zuckerberg, Buffett, Bezos, Mark Cuban, Oprah, etc., etc... All liberal billionaires. They could go a long way towards funding the charitable programs, with the rest of the liberals pitching in to complete the funding. Put your money where your mouths are.
Gates & Buffett are putting a lot of their money into education. But Gates has his own people crunching the numbers & looking for places & methods to make a difference. They've both put up a lot of scholarship money, but I believe they target specific areas (STEM?) as being critical to keeping humanity going into the future. The rest I don't know much about in terms of their philanthropy - but these are all adults, & they have their own ideas about what needs to be done, & in what sequence.

& I truly doubt that they're even going to notice if you try to razz them into doing what you want. They probably have people for that - or in Gates' case, he likelier has an app for that ...
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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They (libraries) are free to the poor.

Of course they are not free to the taxpayers, aka, the rich.

...
If the poor pay rent or mortgage, they're paying property taxes, either directly or indirectly. & property taxes are the basis of state support for most public education K-12 & public libraries in the US. Taxpayers is not the same as the rich. To the extent that people pay sales tax, excise tax, luxury tax & so on - I think most people in the US pay a fair amount of taxes. It's very hard to avoid paying taxes altogether.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxati..._United_States

"The United States of America has separate federal, state, and local government(s) with taxes imposed at each of these levels. Taxes are levied on income, payroll, property, sales, capital gains, dividends, imports, estates and gifts, as well as various fees. In 2010, taxes collected by federal, state, and municipal governments amounted to 24.8% of GDP. In the OECD, only Chile and Mexico are taxed less as a share of their GDP.[1]

"However, taxes fall much more heavily on labor income than on capital income. Divergent taxes and subsidies for different forms of income and spending can also constitute a form of indirect taxation of some activities over others. For example, individual spending on higher education can be said to be "taxed" at a high rate, compared to other forms of personal expenditure which are formally recognized as investments.[2][3]"

(My emphasis - more @ the URL)
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:02 PM
 
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Why SHOULDN'T wealthy people have their assets seized and their greedy butts put in jail?

See, I can play this game too.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:03 PM
 
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I don't resent the tax money my husband and I contribute to support education. It's the best interest of our country to have a well-educated populace.
Maybe you also don't resent it because you're a fundamentally decent person?
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Oh really?

Your choice of a life partner is no accident | Science | AAAS

People hardwired to fall in love with partners with similar level of intelligence | Daily Mail Online

Intelligence is partly based off of genes. So my scenario is not outrageous, but almost certainly, true.
so your proof is that stupid people marry stupid people and smart people marry smart people but you haven't even attempted to provide support for your claim that poor people are dumb, have you?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.15aba39008cc
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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There are few jurisdictions where school districts share the same money pot... I haven’t seen any evidence that it leads to better students... however, most school districts in wealthier neighborhoods do have better performing students... ironic that people want to use a failed system so that we get more underperforming students... I rather selectively identify students to go to better school districts who would do better in that environment to increase larger numbers of good students... not every snowflake is going to excel, that’s life...
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Do you not believe the system would have to change if every child went to public school? Of course, it would. It would have to.

No, magically believing that we can make bad parents good parents is just a pipe dream. Schools can make a huge difference for these kids.

KIPP Academy Middle School (New York) | KIPP Public Charter Schools

This^^^ is a great example.

It's not a great example. Charter schools are not the same as the public school system, so you're comparing apples and oranges.

And no, the system would not have to change if every child went to public school. The majority of children attend public school and the only change we've seen is that they've grown worse.
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