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Old 11-23-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Yup, that "massive" drop is 100/15800. That is a 0.6% drop. The coal that fell off through the cracks of truck beds probably accounts for it. This is the kind of stuff sleazy politicians try to slip by people. Gotta be ashamed of yourself OP.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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The reality is that when Trump promised to 'bring back those high paying coal job' he was lying. Coal jobs have been on the decline for decades primarily due to automation and Trump can revoke all environmental regulations and it isn't going to help coal.

Meanwhile, the nation has lost 100,000 retail jobs -- which is more than all coal jobs, in the last year.


Here's that same graph scaled in a less deceptive way.

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Old 11-23-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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They have their own supply, moot point. Our coal is too expensive for this plant, and an increasing number of US based plants. You can keep on dreaming, but Appalachia is NOT going to get their coal jobs back. Trump lied, and they're going to realize it, sooner or later. You Republicans need to stop hanging your hat on coal
As of July, U.S. coal exports were up 60% (36.79 million tons)... and these 1600 new coal plants haven't even come on line yet.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:21 AM
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There are people absolutely rooting for the day that people in my industry (Class A truck driving) have to go on the unemployment line, and it makes me nervous
Who are these people?

Certainly people look forward to faster, more efficient, safer transportation of goods, but that doesn't mean they're itching to see you in the unemployment line.

What it does mean is that you shouldn't assume nothing will ever change in your industry. You should look at what's coming and prepare accordingly.

"I want clean air and rivers" does not mean "I want to see miners starve to death."
"I would like safer highways and cleaner, more efficient transportation" does not mean "I want to see truckers in line at the soup kitchen."

Stop with the victimhood nonsense and learn to adapt like the rest of us.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:25 AM
 
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What kind of human beings would celebrate job loss for their fellow citizens??
You guys are so short sighted. When automobiles came into use, a lot of people making horse related things started to lose jobs. The people who made buggy whips (and buggies) saw their industry go down, manufacturing lagging, lost jobs. But the economy and jobs shifted elsewhere. Halting the progress of the society in positive ways always produces dislocation. Should the country have suppresses the development of cars and supported horse-drawn transportation? A good economy absorbs those losses by shifting jobs to other sectors.
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Canada
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There are people absolutely rooting for the day that people in my industry (Class A truck driving) have to go on the unemployment line, and it makes me nervous
I don’t think you have to worry. A report last month:

Why America is facing a shortage of truck drivers
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I don’t think you have to worry. A report last month:

Why America is facing a shortage of truck drivers
Once automated trucks take over (thanks Google), there will be no need for human drivers anymore, and I will be back into the unskilled labor pool again after busting my butt to get where I am now
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Who are these people?

Certainly people look forward to faster, more efficient, safer transportation of goods, but that doesn't mean they're itching to see you in the unemployment line.

What it does mean is that you shouldn't assume nothing will ever change in your industry. You should look at what's coming and prepare accordingly.

"I want clean air and rivers" does not mean "I want to see miners starve to death."
"I would like safer highways and cleaner, more efficient transportation" does not mean "I want to see truckers in line at the soup kitchen."

Stop with the victimhood nonsense and learn to adapt like the rest of us.
Have you watched any of the videos about automated trucks on YouTube and read the comments sections?
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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As of July, U.S. coal exports were up 60% (36.79 million tons)... and these 1600 new coal plants haven't even come on line yet.
So why are the Appalachian coal miners still stuck on "disability"? Don't see a renaissance happening in Huntington, WV on the horizon. They got false hope, because the majority of those coal exports are coming out of Wyoming
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Have you watched any of the videos about automated trucks on YouTube and read the comments sections?
There's gonna be dark days ahead. Human labor is slowly becoming obsolete. But instead, we have an admin self-pleasuring themselves over coal. Unless the US outright bans automation, the US economy is not going to absorb lost truck drivers if it's doing such a poor job of reabsorbing ex coal miners
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