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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by heavyweight View Post
Republicans are a party of dupes led by the duplicitous.

I’m a Depression historian. The GOP tax bill is straight out of 1929.
GOP orthodoxy:

Working families are greedy and have far too much.

Millionaires are needy and deserve so much more.


Same old "tax cuts and trickle-down" BS they've sold for decades.

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Old 11-30-2017, 02:13 PM
 
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How did America survive before the Income Tax? And what was America’s financial situation during those years?
Excellent.

150 years of growth & expansion not seen before in human history.

The income tax & Federal Reserve were both created in shady backroom deals in the 1910s, but didn't become a drain on society until FDR seized all of gold owned by Americans and replaced it with paper dollars in 1933. $10,000 fine and jail if you didn't comply.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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idiots talk gullible believe. great gravy man some nut job says tax policy killed us in 29 and all the libs light their hair on fire and go running thru the village green.


do you people even read? do you care?


Not one major economist has ever suggested tax policy was at play. not one.
Hayek, Freedman, Keynes and a hoard of others have cussed and discussed the reasons for the Great Depression and while they don't agree, none of them really put this at FREAKING TAX POLICY! Good doG man does anyone actually care about truth?


The writer of this very ignorant article is a moron, not a historian and certainly NOT an economist. this idiot is teaching kids. I feel sorry for my country.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:22 PM
 
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The GOP are fiscal incompetents. Whenever they are charge and they enact their "economic program" a few years later invariably and inevitably the system crashes. Then a Democrat is elected to clean up the mess. Problem is that the American voter can't remember more than 24 hours after the last crisis and so they re-elect incompetent Republicans again.

Next time the crash will be as bad as the great depression. The Republican voter should actually start reading books. Fiscal illiteracy is no way to run a country.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:23 PM
 
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Too bad dems didn't run a winnable candidate. Talk about uneducated, what were they thinking? If they are sooo smart why did they let this happen?
too bad you guys ran a demented old man who only qualifications are fear mongering and blatant lying.

You guys had about 15 other people you could have picked. If Hillary is so bad any of them would have won.

You guys put a lunatic in charge and that lunatic is so lazy he handed every single aspect of our financial regulators and oversight to one single company. Goldman Sachs heads up both the department writing the rules and the departments overseeing the financial sector.


Gary, steven , mick and so on. talk about swamps, this is unbelieveable. Even trumpers know they got played. but throw them a few tweets and trumpers will smile as gary and the boys empty their pockets.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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This crap again? Do you know how many times i've seen liberals claim "Republicans caused the Depression" bull tripe? Do know how many times it's been debunked as not just inaccurate, but a mind-bogglingly stupid claim?
I'll take the Republicans of that era, as the Democrats were the party of the KKK, Jim Crow, and forcing Americans of Japanese descent into prison camps under FDR. Democrats always like to praise their Racist leaders of the past until you bring up they were the worst Racists of that era
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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idiots talk gullible believe. great gravy man some nut job says tax policy killed us in 29 and all the libs light their hair on fire and go running thru the village green.


do you people even read? do you care?


Not one major economist has ever suggested tax policy was at play. not one.
Hayek, Freedman, Keynes and a hoard of others have cussed and discussed the reasons for the Great Depression and while they don't agree, none of them really put this at FREAKING TAX POLICY! Good doG man does anyone actually care about truth?


The writer of this very ignorant article is a moron, not a historian and certainly NOT an economist. this idiot is teaching kids. I feel sorry for my country.
ferd chill, you have clearly not thought it through. this policy cuts federal revenues which means there will be less money to meet our commitments. Austerity has failed every time. The last time it was tried in the EU just a couple of years ago look what happened.

This tax plan simply hands about 60% of the cuts to the top 1% and turns negitive for most people as it phases out... to extend requires doubling down on debt, and still would leave the federal gov short on funding.

ask yourself which states get hurt the most when federal funding it cut... Hint it is mostly Red states.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:30 PM
 
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I'll take the Republicans of that era, as the Democrats were the party of the KKK, Jim Crow, and forcing Americans of Japanese descent into prison camps under FDR. Democrats always like to praise their Racist leaders of the past until you bring up they were the worst Racists of that era
yeah funny how that flipped around. Now the Rs are the racists and the Ds wear the white hat.
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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Fat cats do not hoard money. Most of it is in capital investments that promote job growth.
Low wage job growth in China and Mexico...
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Old 11-30-2017, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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In plain English: the Trump tax plan are CASH GRANTS to the WEALTHY funded by PUBLIC DEBT FINANCING that all of us and our kids will pay for decades to come. This "tax reform" is like taking a cash advance out on the nation's Visa card and handing most of the cash to the wealthy and sticking you, me and our kids with the bill.

That's a very good analogy.

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