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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
No 52 70.27%
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:54 PM
 
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By 2027, people making $40,000 to $50,000 would pay a combined $5.3 billion more in taxes, while the group earning $1 million or more would get a $5.8 billion cut, according to the Joint Committee and the Congressional Budget Office.
Well, isn't that sweet?
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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If true, then let them pass it. They will reap what they sow.
The thing is, it won't be those responsible for this who suffer. It will be the little guy, including Trump's rural, working-class base.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Republicans are a party of dupes led by the duplicitous.

I’m a Depression historian. The GOP tax bill is straight out of 1929.
This crap again? Do you know how many times i've seen liberals claim "Republicans caused the Depression" bull tripe? Do know how many times it's been debunked as not just inaccurate, but a mind-bogglingly stupid claim?
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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He has betrayed us, in what way and isn't that just your opinion, not based on fact?
umm super easy.

unless you at the very least an accredited investor you will see very gains and lots of losses.

There ya go. what more do you want' we have posted the charts on this forum perhaps a hundred times, we have stepped through every single part of the plan point by point.

You guys run away, or rely with glib nonsense.

So if you want to truly debate this bring it on. tell me how pushing trillions to corps and the 0.01% is a win for you. Does your household have a very high income? are you in the top couple of %?

If not over the course of 5 years you lose big time. You will see an array of costs go up. You lose virtually every deduction and that offsets the increased standard deduction.

if you have high medical you lose.

if you are a senior you lose

if you are low income middle income you lose.

if you have high state, local, property taxes you lose.

in fact most everyone who is not already doing very well loses.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:57 PM
 
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We will all reap what they sow.

Kansas is a prime example of how this will work out.
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Old 11-30-2017, 12:58 PM
 
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Are you sure it's not hitler esque too? Good grief liberals are desperate to oppose this
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:00 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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The long term goal of the GOP is the destruction of these programs. They believe they never should have existed in the first place.
The Koch brothers control republicans more than anyone. And the Koch brothers official political platform calls for the following,

"We favor the abolition of Medicare and Medicaid programs.”

“We favor the repeal of the fraudulent, virtually bankrupt, and increasingly oppressive Social Security system. Pending that repeal, participation in Social Security should be made voluntary.”

https://www.sanders.senate.gov/koch-brothers
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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As I recall, the Recession was brought about by the wheeling and dealing of the wealthy.

Stock market was going great guns on borrowed money and financial film flams.

Fortunately, that will never happen again.

Well, except for the recession brought about by wealthy Wall Street types "bundling" bad mortgages and passing them around like hot commodities until the sell-off started.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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The thing is, it won't be those responsible for this who suffer. It will be the little guy, including Trump's rural, working-class base.
That's what is so crazy about Trump's base. Half of what he wants to do will only hurt them...yet they worship him.

Donald Trump dominated with the uneducated in 2016, and boy does it explain a lot.
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Old 11-30-2017, 01:02 PM
 
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I knew this is what would be posted in response to my post. And it's utter bull tripe. This tax rate is all about REPATRIATION of profits already held overseas which are NOT being brought back to the US due to double taxation and a 39% corporate tax rate. To assert that this will lead to a mass movement of factories overseas is to completely accept the opposite, which is that trillions in profits overseas will never be brought back to the US as is the status quo.

Your chosen sources have twisted it to fit your/their agenda while ignoring that the reverse will mean ZERO chance of repatriating those trillions at the current tax rate. If that's acceptable to you, then its time to stop complaining about it.
actually you are wrong. for a repatriation of taxes to work, it must be short term. Otherwise it does exactly what the poster says... tell me Rufus, is it short term? because that does not seem to be address, unless someone fixed it very recently.

so again rufus, Repatriation tax break needs to be either capped, or have strict time limits based on when the money was earned and or completion of repatriation.


I see no twisting here. but i do see you squirming to pretend there is twisting..
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