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Old 11-30-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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These are the same people who lied to us about how great the Obamacare tax would be which caused our insurance premiums to skyrocket 150-200%
Once again, you are the victim of misinformation.

The rate of increase in insurance premiums slowed down during Obamacare.

The rate of increase has gone up again now that Trump and the Republicans have been sabotaging it.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:55 AM
 
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this will be a blessing for most Americans. Remember the people criticizing it want to take 25% of your income away to pay for universal healthcare. Can you afford to lose 25% of your income?
Sure it will. I hear the 1.5 trillion of added debt will do wonders for the economy and future generations.


Btw, could you provide a source for the (faux) 25% number above?
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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What needs to be said is the CBO sides with the liberals just like they did on ACA and ACA sucks
I know I know, here comes the blah blah xx million more have health care due to ACA blah blah.
Geezus, the head of the CBO is a former staff economist for George W. Bush and was picked in 2015 by congressional Republicans.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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The GOP tax bill is a con job.

It will increase the deficit, cut Medicare and Medicaid, and do nothing to stimulate the economy.

When the feathers settle, some of the middle class will see a slight deduction. However, these slight tax cuts will be phased out of the next few years.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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Geezus, the head of the CBO is a former staff economist for George W. Bush and was picked in 2015 by congressional Republicans.
Some people just posts bogus BS for the hell of it.

Thanks for posting the facts.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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Once again, you are the victim of misinformation.

The rate of increase in insurance premiums slowed down during Obamacare.

The rate of increase has gone up again now that Trump and the Republicans have been sabotaging it.
As usual, you are wrong. From about 2012-2016 the rate of increase was around 150%. It became so expensive many people could no longer afford. But that's OK in your eyes since we were taxed so heavily to pay for subsidized insurance for a few million people.

Democrats didn't even bother passing a funding source knowing it would die and lead to single payer.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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this will be a blessing for most Americans. Remember the people criticizing it want to take 25% of your income away to pay for universal healthcare. Can you afford to lose 25% of your income?
People will lose their "income", thats right, because a big chunk of most people's income is the value of the health insurance. So people lose that insurance as the employer will no longer pay for it and instead the employer pays a Medicare payroll tax. Can you afford to go on Medicare-for-all as a 40 year old and get peace of mind without having to worry about medical bankruptcies?
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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Some people just posts bogus BS for the hell of it.

Thanks for posting the facts.
yes and you should stop doing that
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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As usual, you are wrong. From about 2012-2016 the rate of increase was around 150%. It became so expensive many people could no longer afford. But that's OK in your eyes since we were taxed so heavily to pay for subsidized insurance for a few million people.

Democrats didn't even bother passing a funding source knowing it would die and lead to single payer.
What are you talking about? Most democrats are swimming in corporate donations from the wealthy health care industry, like the GOP they do NOT want single payer. That would kill the donors that feed them. Only the non-puppets in Congress want a national health care system as they are not on the payroll of the health care lobby.
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Old 11-30-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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For those who have been misinformed and are passing around bogus B S about rate increases during ACA compared to prior to ACA.

Slower Premium Growth Under Obama - FactCheck.org

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robbman...surance-rates/
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