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View Poll Results: Are you happy your taxes are going up?
Yes 22 29.73%
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Old 11-29-2017, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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It's not going to do very much about offshoring. The 35% corporate tax rate that the Republicans harp on is more like 12% after all the loopholes and deductions are figured in. When a recession finally comes along and the Republicans start screaming about needing to cut the budget, maybe the military can be cut for a change. Or better yet, why not go back to pre-Reagan tax rates of 70% tax on incomes over a million bucks or 90% capital gains tax rates on capital and dividends over a million. I bet that would raise a few bucks!
Not only that, but the effects of the corporate tax cuts encourage foreign investment in American companies, which will have the effect of strengthening the dollar which discourages exports and encourages manufacturing abroad.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Bay View, Milwaukee
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I'm actually not sure what you're talking about. The cost of waivers and loan write offs are not free, the cost gets passed on to the tax payers.
How does that happen? From what I've seen, those who pay full ride (usually the more privileged undergrads) at a university subsidize those who don't pay the full ride (usually the less privileged undergrads and many grad students). Endowment funds and other internal streams can be used to help pay for the tuition of the latter group, but such is less common for grad students who are TAs.

In my experience, grad students who take out educational loans do not get tuition waivers. (They get the loans in order to pay for tuition.) But these students (usually law, medical, dentistry, etc.) generally are not TAs, so don't qualify for tuition waivers.

Some grad students who are TAs take out personal loans (to help make ends meet), but the terms of those loans are generally not dependent on program completion and other academic criteria.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Yes, "inclusivity in gaming" is a stupid thing to major in. Yes, there are people taking on debt to study silly things that will never pay out financially.

But you should recognize that for every silly major you call out, there are also scores of people studying physics, electrical engineering, advanced economic policy, medical research, artificial intelligence, and scores of other fields that are highly valuable to society.

These fields in higher education produce the innovation that conservatives enjoy on a daily basis while deriding higher education as a liberal conspiracy ("science" = "fake news!") and taking great pride in their collective ignorance.

You need these kinds of people in your workforce, and you're now making it harder for people with the requisite intelligence and motivation to pursue these fields - and it's already extremely costly to undergo higher education.

Just another example of how dumb conservatives can't be trusted to make policy impacting things they are too ignorant to understand. Conservatives understand coal mining, oil drilling, and manufacturing models from 1980...but the world has evolved.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:33 PM
 
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Graduate students thirty years ago were impressive... nowadays, anyone who wants to be a graduate student can be and often times they are subpar to those who didn’t pursue graduate studies... maybe without the free rides in graduate studies, we actually start getting intelligent people in there...
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: My House
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Graduate students thirty years ago were impressive... nowadays, anyone who wants to be a graduate student can be and often times they are subpar to those who didn’t pursue graduate studies... maybe without the free rides in graduate studies, we actually start getting intelligent people in there...
Because only wealthy people make good PhD candidates? How very absurd!
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:45 PM
 
Location: My House
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I think people don’t grasp what a tuition waiver is.
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Old 11-29-2017, 09:49 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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More on what a piece of crap this legislation is:
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By 2027, people making $40,000 to $50,000 would pay a combined $5.3 billion MORE in taxes, while the group earning $1 million or more would get a $5.8 billion cut, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation and the Congressional Budget Office.

“When you put all these pieces together, what you’re left with is we are squandering a giant sum of money,” said Edward D. Kleinbard, a former chief of staff at the Congressional Joint Committee on Taxation who teaches law at the University of Southern California.

“It’s not aimed at growth. It is not aimed at the middle class. It is at every turn carefully engineered to deliver a kiss to the donor class.”
And, for the gullible still falling for the "trickle down" con:
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In 2004, Congress invited American corporations to bring home overseas earnings at a sharply reduced rate, pitching it as a means of bolstering investment. But the corporations spent as much as 90 percent of their windfall buying back their shares, according to Bureau of Economic Analysis research.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/29/b...n-tax-cut.html

The cravenness is astonishing. There are no apparently no GOP people of integrity - anywhere.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:00 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Thumbs down Trump Sells Tax Plan With False Claims

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“In fact, they’re going to say Trump is the opposite of an exaggerator,” he said of his rosy projections, in a speech full of exaggerations and falsehoods. Here’s an assessment.
Trump Sells Tax Plan With False Claims


NO surprise ......another speech full of lies!
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Yes, "inclusivity in gaming" is a stupid thing to major in. Yes, there are people taking on debt to study silly things that will never pay out financially.

But you should recognize that for every silly major you call out, there are also scores of people studying physics, electrical engineering, advanced economic policy, medical research, artificial intelligence, and scores of other fields that are highly valuable to society.

These fields in higher education produce the innovation that conservatives enjoy on a daily basis while deriding higher education as a liberal conspiracy ("science" = "fake news!") and taking great pride in their collective ignorance.

You need these kinds of people in your workforce, and you're now making it harder for people with the requisite intelligence and motivation to pursue these fields - and it's already extremely costly to undergo higher education.

Just another example of how dumb conservatives can't be trusted to make policy impacting things they are too ignorant to understand. Conservatives understand coal mining, oil drilling, and manufacturing models from 1980...but the world has evolved.
I can understand why electrical engineering would be highly valuable to society.

Medical research seems to mean biotechnology which will just increase health insurance costs and most of the burden will fall on employers and employees. Medicare will also have high increases in medical costs over baseline as these expensive remedies cost so much.

Many of the graduate programs seem to either be majors with little demand, ones that will increase government spending like biotechnology and artificial intelligence which will be bad for jobs.

Why should the government subsidize majors that cause lots of health care inflation, increase government spending and take jobs away.

I don't really understand why self-driving cars and artificial intelligence is needed. I mean how much more technology can people fit in their lives at this time.

I like the internet and everything, this is a site I learn alot from but overall it seems like people are having fatigue from to much stimulation these days with technology. I can't imagine how stressful society will be in a decade with the hyper-intellectual artificial intelligence loving elite trying to manipulate the future of the country.

Seems like people are just inventing things to attract venture capital from the rich who want a high return on investment and are willing to gamble their fortunes on different companies.
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Old 11-29-2017, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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Graduate students thirty years ago were impressive... nowadays, anyone who wants to be a graduate student can be and often times they are subpar to those who didn’t pursue graduate studies... maybe without the free rides in graduate studies, we actually start getting intelligent people in there...
Why don't you give it a try?

Aim for something in science, math, engineering in one of the better programs.
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