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Secondly, Nobody has the resources or absolute unchecked power that Muller has. Third, need I remind you that every witness congress called either outright lied or pled the 5th. Fourth, even up to today the FBI refuses to hand over documents,refuses to cooperate and is very,very close to being charged with contempt of congress.
Nobody on this forum and certainly nobody in political office could withstand a "Muller" investigation. So how's about dropping the partisan hack yapping and be honest...
That simply means the witnesses have a lot more fear of and respect for Mueller than they do for Congress. I do too, as a matter of fact. He's a bulldog, and he doesn't smile a lot.
That's why there wasn't but one charge in the indictment that was handed down. Mueller has plenty of other charges available, many of which can be handed off to state courts where Flynn would be beyond the reach of a pardon. There is allegedly another indictment which is still sealed. He was active in New York and Virginia for certain, and Mueller already has a Grand Jury in Virginia and a good working relationship with New York State Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman, with whom he has almost certainly discussed what happens if Flynn doesn't meet the terms of his plea bargain. Also, don't forget, Flynn, Jr. is also on the hot seat.
In short, Flynn is going to play straight and tell what he knows, if for no other reason just to keep Jumior out of the pokey for the next fifteen to twenty. Let Trump do what he will. Mueller is working six moves ahead of him, playing world class chess while Donnie is still figuring out how the checkers move.
OK great! It looks like you have full confidence in the system. I hope you are able to accept the findings of the investigation.
Right now, Bobby is looking into the possibility of Russian money being filtered through a German bank to be passed on to Trump, either through mock loans, overpriced real estate purchases, or a number of other channels. If Trump is clean, he has nothing to fear from the investigation. Mueller is not only just, he is fair.
Not sure why they believe a subpoena of financial records is beyond the pale. Part of any coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia could potentially involve the transfer of funds. It could also shed light on any leverage the Russians may have over Trump, which would explain the GOP's position change on Ukraine, Flynn's secret discussions regarding sanctions, etc.
If in the course of investigating any financial ties to Russia, Mueller happens to stumble upon money laundering or other financial crimes that don't involve Russia, why would he not pursue those? If the police have a warrant to search your home for contraband, and they discover a dead body on the floor, are they supposed to say "Well boys, that's not what we came here for. A dead body is WAY beyond the scope of the warrant"?
It's no different from Whitewater, which lasted much longer than this investigation has currently been going on. The independent counsel, who was a Republican, was investigating a real estate deal that somehow swerved into Bill Clinton's relationship with a 22 year old intern. If Ken Starr could steer his investigation into Clinton's relationship with an intern without Republican objection, why can't Mueller, a Republican who was appointed by the Trump administration, turn his attention to Trump's financial dealings, which are very much within the scope of his mandate?
In fact, what Trump said was: "I feel badly for General Flynn. I feel very badly. He's led a very strong life, and I feel very badly."
Can't help but feel that Trump's diminished vocabulary reflects his diminished mental capacity.
Lot of people keep saying this but there ins't anything in the constitution that says the president has to talk a certain way or follow the standards of previous presidents. Trump just has different personality his popularity is not affected by it lot of people connect with him. The folks like yourself who spend lot of time talking about politics online is not the majority of American's you might think you are but your not. Many people see Trump as a regular guy or doing things for the working man it doesn't matter if Trump really is or not he connects with them.
Huh, now correct me if I'm wrong but the investigation was to uncover COLLUSION between Russia and the CAMPAIGN right?
So how the hell is it right or fair to crawl up someone's tailpipe all the way back to when they were babes in their mothers arms?
This looks like it's not at all about COLLUSION but a freaking hunt for any crime in order to convict.
Tell me how I'm wrong...
By the way, I'd not be happy about this no matter which side was getting a (legal?) life colonoscopy...
Once an investigation starts, the investigator is free to follow up any lead s/he thinks is worth following up.
That's just the way it is. For both the FBI and your local police department. Once charges are filed and a trial process actually begins, prosecutors are limited to the actual charges and can't wander around fishing at whim. But until then...
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But remember the Congressmen like Gowdy get paid whether they work on investigations or vote on tax bills
So does their staff
Most of the people on this investigation were hired from expensive law firms to do this work
Plus their investigators are traveling overseas
Money well spent
Better than Secret Service for Trump's kids making their business rounds---
Better than the costs to fly Trump et al to play golf every weekend
Better than the cost to run a separate WH in NYC initially and one in Washington
I was simply correcting someone who claimed Benghazi cost 2x what this investigation was costing, which it did not.
So, what Mueller has to show for that $7 million, so far...
An indictment for lying when the FBI already knew he'd lied.
An indictment for lying and for trying, and failing, to get the Trump admin to open a back channel to Russia.
An indictment for money laundering, when he'd previously been investigated for that very thing under the Obama administration, yet had never been charged for it while under that admin.
A stack of notes/emails by Comey that, per Gowdy, will not help a prosecutor who may try to bring obstruction charges, instead, those notes/emails will help the defendant who may be charged with obstruction.
Wow, just, wow
'Some' of the fall offs from the investigation...
Obama knew the Russians were up to something but hid that knowledge.
An investigator on Muellers team was removed, but not fired or investigated (why not?), for extreme suspicious behavior, part of which was in helping Comey change his draft from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless”.
Hillary/DNC hired and paid a foreigner to create a false dossier to damage opponent.
The infamous tarmac meeting, which the FBI claimed they had no records of.
U1 rearing it's head again with a deep throat witness.
etc., etc......................
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