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Old 01-02-2018, 04:08 AM
 
Location: Wartrace,TN
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With a family member dealing with bladder Cancer which is the leading cause of smoking as well for Lung Cancer, smoking being cause #1, will not Marijuana increases the amount of people suffering from Cancer in the near and far future?

When you walk through the hall ways of Moffitt and other Cancer centers you can't get away from the horrific images of people of all ages, all backgrounds and ho are trying to overcome Cancer!

In my families case the number one cause seems to be that the entire family was smoking inside the house since the birth. Back in the days it wasn't so well known how second hand smoke could cause serious issues.

Now we know.

Smoking electronic sigarettes will soon be proven to cause harm as nicotine seems to be part of this form of usuagw.

Marijuana is often smoked and is there a difference between regular sigarettes and smoking a blunt?

Please advise your family members and let them walk through a Cancer Center and see what smoking can do to Your body.

What will happen to th cost of health insurance?
You are making the assumption that legalization (aka decriminalization) will increase the number of marijuana smokers significantly. I disagree with this theory; most people that want to smoke marijuana have been doing it regardless of the laws.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:53 AM
 
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Since it's harmful to lung health, there's a good chance marijuana could lead to lung cancer. Why take the chance? Do we have to wait ten years or so until somebody finally proves it inconclusively? Why not be pro-active and, if you want to take marijuana, then use the edible form.

Even then, you shouldn't be out driving around in a car after eating it. I drove after having smoked it--didn't get in an accident but came close to it and luckily, was able to pull over until the effect wore off. We are just asking for yet another societal problem. We didn't used to think cigarette smoke was dangerous either--had to wait around for all the studies to finally come out. By that time...well, I think we know.
IIRC it's not necessarily the marijuana itself, but the lighter that is most harmful to you.

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By all means, keep smoking if you want as I'm not saying you can't.

Smokers pay a lot of tax for every cigarette, etc.

The people who come here and tell how great health their family has while smoking for decades is something they are proud off. I wonder how many ever had a CT scan and know for real what is going on.

One of the chain smokers always had some issues but the doctors in Europe always told them they were healthy. We knew that wasn't true but they lived until 76 so long life. But autopsy showed we were very right what was wrong and had doctors scratching their heads. At least the doctors in Europe. The specialists over here had it figured out within 24 hrs.
There is still a difference between cigarettes and marijuana. Seems you've forgotten that.

What have you been smoking lately?
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Old 01-02-2018, 08:01 AM
 
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I don't smoke pot but I know people who have smoked it since the 60s with no problems. My father smoked cigarettes and died of lung cancer.
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Old 01-02-2018, 10:16 AM
 
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Then you better never drive again until all the drivers are off the road (driverless cars), because regardless of marijuana controversies, drunk drivers will always be out there. You can TRY banning alcohol if you think that will help, but it would only make the problem worse (already proven 100 years ago).
Whats most suspicious imo, is after alcohol prohibition,they knew very well that prohibition type laws against something, is just not effective, but they do this very thing with pot and other drugs?? Doesnt make sense.


The only logical explanation is that the US is in collusion with drug cartels, keeping certain things illegal, ensures the black market thrives, while at the same time, giving them an enemy to fight. They need drugs coming in, in order to justify a war to fight them.

The DEA is nothing more than the cartels lobbying arm in our Govt, if you look at their history, laws they have had a part in, its very clear how everything they have done, ultimately benefits the cartels.
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Old 01-02-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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Whats most suspicious imo, is after alcohol prohibition,they knew very well that prohibition type laws against something, is just not effective, but they do this very thing with pot and other drugs?? Doesnt make sense.


The only logical explanation is that the US is in collusion with drug cartels, keeping certain things illegal, ensures the black market thrives, while at the same time, giving them an enemy to fight. They need drugs coming in, in order to justify a war to fight them.

The DEA is nothing more than the cartels lobbying arm in our Govt, if you look at their history, laws they have had a part in, its very clear how everything they have done, ultimately benefits the cartels.
Power. Control. Money.

Though it is silly to try to control marijuana. It's far less harmful both to people and socially than alcohol.

Ultimately though it probably has it's roots way back. Hemp can replace many commonly used ingredients (especially wood) and I'm sure those industries back in the day weren't too keen on that. We can destroy the forests for toilet paper that take decades to recover, or hemp that takes a season.

Henry Ford was going to make the bodies of his vehicles out of hemp.

Someone has and Jay Leno profiled it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxYNqa-ZyM0
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:07 PM
 
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I am not expert on Marijuana, but logic would suggest that tar, and other toxins would be caused by inhaling burnt marijuana also.
And since weed is somewhat "legal" now, just imagine what types of stuff are going to be put into it to get people more addicted to it and/or to enhance it's potency. Lets just see if mental disorders and brain cancer cases rise.

The most unhappy people I've ever talked with are those who say they've smoked weed for 20 - 30 years. Nothing seems to make these people happy except weed. Nothing is exciting to them until they smoke their weed. Nothing motivates them until they've smoked their weed. Nothing benefits them unless weed is involved. Problematic trend.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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With a family member dealing with bladder Cancer which is the leading cause of smoking as well for Lung Cancer, smoking being cause #1, will not Marijuana increases the amount of people suffering from Cancer in the near and far future?

When you walk through the hall ways of Moffitt and other Cancer centers you can't get away from the horrific images of people of all ages, all backgrounds and ho are trying to overcome Cancer!

In my families case the number one cause seems to be that the entire family was smoking inside the house since the birth. Back in the days it wasn't so well known how second hand smoke could cause serious issues.

Now we know.

Smoking electronic sigarettes will soon be proven to cause harm as nicotine seems to be part of this form of usuagw.

Marijuana is often smoked and is there a difference between regular sigarettes and smoking a blunt?

Please advise your family members and let them walk through a Cancer Center and see what smoking can do to Your body.

What will happen to th cost of health insurance?

1. there are 1001 uses for hemp(cannabis ) other than smoking and getting high

2. hemp(cannabis )(or the slang term of marijuana) is NOT harmful to the human body or mind. Marijuana does NOT pose a threat to the general public

3. half a million people die each year from tobacco. half a million people die from alcohol. NO ONE has ever died from the uses of hemp



we need to get off the talking point of recreational or medial marijuana, and just legalize hemp period
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:34 PM
 
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Whats most suspicious imo, is after alcohol prohibition,they knew very well that prohibition type laws against something, is just not effective, but they do this very thing with pot and other drugs?? Doesnt make sense.


The only logical explanation is that the US is in collusion with drug cartels, keeping certain things illegal, ensures the black market thrives, while at the same time, giving them an enemy to fight. They need drugs coming in, in order to justify a war to fight them.

The DEA is nothing more than the cartels lobbying arm in our Govt, if you look at their history, laws they have had a part in, its very clear how everything they have done, ultimately benefits the cartels.
Don't forget the for-profit prison industry. High incarceration rates are good for the balance sheets.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:42 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The most unhappy people I've ever talked with are those who say they've smoked weed for 20 - 30 years. Nothing seems to make these people happy except weed. Nothing is exciting to them until they smoke their weed. Nothing motivates them until they've smoked their weed. Nothing benefits them unless weed is involved. Problematic trend.
Sounds like an alcoholic, except when alcoholics get to that level they will die if they stop cold turkey. Marijuana users can stop and they may experience some anxiety and insomnia but nothing life threatening.

There is such cognitive dissonance when it comes to conservatives on marijuana. They use the exact arguments the Left uses for things they want to control.
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Am I going to have to look at a lot of men with man boobs, now?
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