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Originally Posted by English Dave
He said he was born in 1952, and retired at 62. So, that will make him at least 65. He honestly has made my day........ He sneered at everything about England from eye glasses to the NHS. He said how wonderful American health care is, and how he can also buy a gun while picking up a loaf.
Fair enough I thought....... I defended England as best I could, and then he came out and said he has no health care coverage, and as illegal immigrants get free care, then he is going to as well.
I nearly fell off my chair laughing. Boy, what a guy, and he is teetotal as well.........
Boy, I love city-data. It is just great.........
I won't forgive the Austrialians for this, as if the current Ashes aren't bad enough they also have to inflict this upon us.
So you all admit that the government and its socialized medicine system failed to vaccinate people in a timely manner to prevent an influenza outbreak.
There is no vaccine for it. If there was you would think every American would have been vaccinated by now. Or are we not being vaccinated because our system sucks?
This thread is so deceptive. If America's healthcare system was over-whelmed with a flu crisis of epidemic proportions, elective surgeries would also be postponed to free up hospital resources for the epidemic. It has nothing to do with universal healthcare.
If you want a meaningful health system comparison, just look at the life expectancies in different countries. Keeping people alive longer is kind of the whole point of any healthcare.
In the UK people live almost 3 years longer than in the US. In fact, US is behind each and every developed country. The one thing about the US that stands out is that it is *the only* developed country that does not have single payer. Coincidence? I doubt it.
This thread is so deceptive. If America's healthcare system was over-whelmed with a flu crisis of epidemic proportions, elective surgeries would also be postponed to free up hospital resources for the epidemic. It has nothing to do with universal healthcare.
No, I didn't. I referred to the current problem that NHS is having as a cluster, and wondered why people would defend it.
I do not believe that government-issue healthcare is a right of the people. I do not want to see our government further involved in the healthcare business. I would like to see a low-cost option offered for low income people that doesn't penalize them for opting out, and doesn't financially penalize the higher earners of America for their inability to pay.
Are you done screeching at me now, or do you have more baggage to unload on me simply because we disagree on this issue?
I'm not screeching at you. Apologies if it seems that way.
Low cost options for the low income are already in place. It's the middle class that needs help. Why no low cost options for us? Most middle class people I know don't relish the idea of medical expenses that rival mortgages on high end homes. It's the middle class the politicians seem to always forget about when it comes to healthcare affordability.
Market based healthcare does not work. Proof of this can be clearly seen in the situation we are in now.
I totally support having a two-tier system of health insurance. It works in the UK and France, as well as many other countries. Essential health care should be socialized. Private insurance can cover the non-essentials.
Worshiping the free market - especially in health care - just doesn't make sense.
If you’d like to talk both science and math, I’d love to talk about immunization rates of illegals and how disease tends to spread faster among those who aren’t immunized.
Let me start with two questions:
1. Do you believe immunization has any value to the public?
2. Do you think immunization rates amongst illegals is higher, about the same or lower than US citizens?
If you’d like to talk both science and math, I’d love to talk about immunization rates of illegals and how disease tends to spread faster among those who aren’t immunized.
Let me start with two questions:
1. Do you believe immunization has any value to the public?
2. Do you think immunization rates amongst illegals is higher, about the same or lower than US citizens?
If you are immunized, then you won't be infected by an un-immunized immigrant. Isn't that why you were immunized in the first place
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He sneered at everything about England from eye glasses to the NHS. He said how wonderful American health care is, and how he can also buy a gun while picking up a loaf.
