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Old 01-11-2018, 06:55 AM
 
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A single person with no kids nor disability can get food stamps in Missouri?

An interesting thing about food stamps is that there is a 20% 'disregard' for EARNED income. So someone who makes, say, $15,000 working a minimum wage job qualifies for the same dollar amount of food stamps as a retired/disabled person with $12,000 income, assuming their medical/shelter expenses are similar.

I don't think they can get $194 in Missouri - that's a maximum and one adult with no kids at that income level would probably get something more like $25/mo.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:59 AM
 
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Why is it that it seems like a lot of the oppenents of minimum wage increases (or having a minimum wage at all), are also the opponents of social welfare programs- food stamps, housing assistance and things like the EITC?

I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:59 AM
 
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As a restaurant owner,do you really think I'm going to pay some 15 year old kid,with his nose in his cell phone most of the time,$600 a week to bus tables?
The minimum wage is in place for entry level jobs....kids getting seasonal work and such.
I have had kids that started at minimum wage who showed initiative and learned other skills that are now making $18-$20 hourly.
BTW...our local Walmart just tore out 16 cashier stations and replaced them with self check outs......so much for government telling private business' what to pay their help

You no longer need to pay some 15 year old kid minimum wage. Census data say that as of 2012, 48.5% of minimum wage earners are at least 25 years old.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:04 AM
 
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As a restaurant owner,do you really think I'm going to pay some 15 year old kid,with his nose in his cell phone most of the time,$600 a week to bus tables?
The minimum wage is in place for entry level jobs....kids getting seasonal work and such.
I have had kids that started at minimum wage who showed initiative and learned other skills that are now making $18-$20 hourly.
BTW...our local Walmart just tore out 16 cashier stations and replaced them with self check outs......so much for government telling private business' what to pay their help

In response to The Rent Is Too High, homeless camps are popping up in cities all over the West Coast. So much for government telling private builders and landlords what cost-inflated housing standards they must live up to.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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BTW...our local Walmart just tore out 16 cashier stations and replaced them with self check outs......so much for government telling private business' what to pay their help
Mine, too, has removed live cashier stations, adding self serve checkout.

Much to my delight as I get out faster via self serve.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:40 AM
 
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And yet Walmart was able to increase their salaries.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Going to $15 an hour from $9 is disruptive.
The GOP wants no floor so their constituents can see how low they can go.
The Dems seem to think there is no limit to what employers will pay.

The min wage needs to be set at such that it provides a moderate floor and prevents low balling.
It cannot be so high as to be disruptive.

The partisans on both sides do not believe in balance.
I agree but there id's a systematic problem with economy. That problem being because employers think we are still in an employer's market they can lowball even the point of jobs that shouldn't be minimum wage to be art minimum wage levels. This is to keep wage expenses down while executives make tons of money robbing from their employees, even on the public sector like education. Then they cry when they can't get talent.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:18 AM
 
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And yet Walmart was able to increase their salaries.
//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...cause-tax.html
You can hardly compare Walmart to Red Robin.
And Walmart has been raising salaries every year for the past 3 years...$1/hour at a time.
Walmart has also employed and recently expanded automation with doubling the number of self checkouts at many stores.
They also consolidated many of their store back office functions which eliminated between 7000-8000 jobs last year.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Boston
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WalMart is smart, that's why they're on top.
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Old 01-11-2018, 08:37 AM
 
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Why is it that it seems like a lot of the oppenents of minimum wage increases (or having a minimum wage at all), are also the opponents of social welfare programs- food stamps, housing assistance and things like the EITC?

I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious.
I'm interested in that reasoning as well.

If you don't want to foot the bill for food stamps, medical care, free school lunches, etc. for the employees making money for employers, it seems to reason you'd be in favor of those employers paying a living wage.
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