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Old 01-14-2018, 03:42 PM
 
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You do realize that number of those haven't been able to because of the purple squirrel requirements and other job applicant insanity we have seen since the Great Recession, RIGHT?
That was a rational answer in early 2009, but not continuously since then.

They had 8 years to return to adult jobs. Plenty of time, if they put in a reasonable amount of effort.

Since the great recession, I have moved between corps for better jobs twice. Third one appears on the horizon. We've been seeing great job growth, record DJ, now tax breaks geared to invigorate capital spending. Time to seize the moment.

Perpetual whiners are the misfits who never put effort in to improve their lot in life.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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That was a rational answer in early 2009, but not continuously since then.

They had 8 years to return to adult jobs. Plenty of time, if they put in a reasonable amount of effort.

Since the great recession, I have moved between corps for better jobs twice. Third one appears on the horizon. We've been seeing great job growth, record DJ, now tax breaks geared to invigorate capital spending. Time to seize the moment.

Perpetual whiners are the misfits who never put effort in to improve their lot in life.
It was an answer that worked well into this decade. Companies didn't stop doing what they did during the recession over night. That is naïve to think. Companies didn't stop from putting all the purple squirrel requirements in job lists, the fake job listings didn't stop and we still see skeleton crews to maximize revenue. Also not all areas had job growth that fast. Arizona was about three years behind the country since it is based around real estate. As soon as the rest of the country got turning again, I've seen tons of new stores or new developments that were on hold seemingly a decade.

I'm glad you had success but not everyone is you and not everyone can pull themselves up by their bootstraps like you did. I agree and hope that we COULD see job growth but that is IFF companies do what they did during the Reagan tax cut era and create jobs, not the Bush tax cut era and sit on the cash. I want it to be the former, but my fears and expectation are the latter.
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Old 01-14-2018, 05:51 PM
 
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Just pouring more fuel on the fire: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.186550c1b735


Carry on!
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Just pouring more fuel on the fire: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.186550c1b735


Carry on!

I thought that was a good article.
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Old 01-14-2018, 08:55 PM
 
Location: USA
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Every $10 I get from tax cuts now will cost me $100 in lost Medicare and Social Security when I’m old.

But hey, who cares about the future? I just want an extra Salad Shooter right now.
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:20 PM
 
Location: USA
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Uh, that's the entire Dem talking point
Touche^ Im still waiting for the $2500 a year savings Obama promised us we would get. Ended up being a scam. I guess he meant the next president
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Old 01-14-2018, 09:28 PM
 
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Touche^ Im still waiting for the $2500 a year savings Obama promised us we would get. Ended up being a scam. I guess he meant the next president
The whole 8 years were a scam.
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Old 01-15-2018, 05:39 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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A calculator based on Table Rates.

Please show a link detailing the $20 change analysis, assuming you have any backup for that number at all.

Rate tables are meaningless other than in one individuals situation.
This article uses the Tax Policy Center as the basis.


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Meanwhile, it’s expected that about 60 percent of households will see tax cuts of at least $1,000 per year from 2018 through 2025. But those would largely go away after 2025, when various individual tax cuts in the law expire.

Does the newly signed Republican tax reform law mean $1,000 or more per year for Americans? | PolitiFact Wisconsin
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:09 AM
 
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From what I can tell, our 1% reduction in tax rate will be more than offset by our loss in SALT deductions. Not the mention they didn’t fix the AMT. That thing needs to go away or the earnings where it kicks in significantly raised.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:22 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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According to CNN Money and CBS Boston

90% Of Workers Likely To See More Money In Paycheck Next Month « CBS Boston

I thought the tax cuts were only for the rich?
Mostly /= only

If the old effective corporate rate was in the teens why didnt they just mostly shift things around to bring the stated rate to near the effective corporate tax rate?
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