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Old 01-17-2018, 03:08 PM
 
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Did this doctor lie about Obama's smoking, drinking and drug use?
Who knows?

I'd bet good money he lied about his height and weight.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:08 PM
 
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Sanjay Gupta: By all standards, Trump has heart disease | TheHill



Is the doctor that examined Trump lying to us?
Trump’s heart is diseased? I guess in more ways than one.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Earth
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The doctor that examined Trump put his career and professional credentials on the line by holding that press conference yesterday. He has a stellar reputation. He didn't lie.

Try not to be such a flaming political hack.
No presidential physical exam released to the public has ever been accurate, so what are the odds that this one is?
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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Keep in mind that Gupta would have been the Surgeon General of the United States had he not withdrawn his name. He just couldn’t part with all the money CNN was paying him.

lmao!!!! stay at CNN instead of being Surgeon General of the nation?.... I'm sure every doctor in the country rather be at CNN playing celebrity doctor than being Surgeon General.


Rear Admiral Jackson has a more respectable title than Gupta at CNN......not many people get to the rank of Admiral in the Navy and not too many doctors get to be the President's physician let alone to 2 Presidents.

Check his awards and decorations in his 23 years in the service.... I'm sure he will swap all that to be on CNN playing celebrity doctor.....
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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CNN doctor: "Like most men his age, President Trump has a common form of heart disease- relatively easy to address with lifestyle changes and certain medications."

Media: "Too ill to serve, impeachment imminent?"
I haven't heard anyone in the media say President Trump should be impeached over this.

In any case, the American Heart Association notes that 70% of men in the 65-70 age bracket have some form of cardiovascular disease. "Cardiovascular disease" includes things like higher than recommended cholesterol, higher than recommended BP, normal age-related hardening of the arteries, etc.

It doesn't necessarily mean you're about to drop dead. There is a lot of stuff classified as "cardiovascular disease" that is easily managed with medications and lifestyle changes.

The doctor who examined the President made that quite clear.

Actually, so did Sanjay Gupta this morning.

So, there's nothing anyone should get their blood pressure up about here.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Sanjay Gupta is a moron. He is more focus on keeping his celebrity status than being a responsible doctor but then again he works for CNN.

Now he’s making diagnoses of patients he hasn’t examined. Where’s that Hillary diagnosis?
And what does Hillary's diagnosis or lack thereof matter? She is not President even though sometimes I think Donald Trump believes that she is.

The question was whether Trump is truly healthy or not. Gupta points out the at the findings regarding calcium point towards heart disease. AND he asked the President's treating physician about Trump's health and he conceded there was heart disease.

Get it? Its really pretty simple.

Most people would not get their panties in a bunch over this. Trump's condition is treatable and many people in his age group have the same problem. However, I think some of you believe Trump is immortal and the product of immaculate conception from the way you talk.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Sanjay Gupta: By all standards, Trump has heart disease | TheHill



Is the doctor that examined Trump lying to us?
i am not a doctor, i am not POTUS, my annual exam is much more detailed than Trump's was. At least based on what they reported. If my calcium score was as high as trumps i would be concerned.

Trump's is in the heart disease range by a good bit. and it is the rate at which it is increasing that is so concerning. It does not mean Trump is going to fall over clutching his arm or chest. But it tells you his ticker is going down hill.

Is it lying? well he did not mention it until a doctor asked, which is hiding the facts.... just like Trump grew an inch or two as well,

the Agatston score but it was NOT included on the release.... thus they were misleading the public into thinking his heart was fully healthy when it is clear it is not.

133 is not awful but it is in the range of heart disease and action should be taken.......

for comparison mine was still zero the last time tested but it has been a couple of years since they recommended it. i have had the screening at least 3 or 4 times over the last decade or maybe more.. and i am early 50s...

(zero is not that uncommon i believe)
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
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Doc said mental and cognitive health is good. He didn't see the need to give Trump a cognitive test but Trump asked for the toughest one and passed with flying colors. Cardiac health is excellent due to no smoking and drinking.

Sorry, snowflakes, Trump is in better shape than YOU are!
You forgot to put that he has the best health ever... preferably with a few exclamation points and no sense of irony.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Rear Admiral Jackson denies that he has a heart disease and I don't know what conversation Gupta is talking about. So now Gupta is calling Rear Admiral Jackson who was appointed by Obama a liar?


does Gupta knows more about a patient he has never seen in person than the Rear Admiral and his 28 years of service? what a joke Gupta is.
Trump's coronary calcium score was 133. Any level above 100 is considered to be heart disease. Look it up yourself. Plus, his LDL level of 143 is well above the accepted maximum of 100 considered to be normal - even in spite of him taking Crestor. So yes, the guy probably has heart disease.
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Old 01-17-2018, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Fresno, CA
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Trump could have had Trout for dinner and still had room for dessert.
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