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Mueller's desperation comes as no surprise.
There was never any chance of anyone beating Trump in 2020.
Mueller is the only way Trump would not be a 2-term President.
There have been none relative to Trump colluding with the Russians.
Thats because the trump collusion one will occur when the final report comes out, however there have been a ton involving Russians.
You're trying to play word games here. Face reality, this is about Russian involvement in our election. And the thing you are talking about will be the end result if its true. NOT in the middle. But you know that.
That being said, I found the article to be spot on in fact reporting. You really have to read everything and research where it comes from, but I think it was a good article.
Why is Mueller looking into the Stormy Daniels payment? I quote from the article " Candidates are free to contribute as much money to their campaigns as they like so Trump is free to shoot $130,000 over to Daniels even if that payment ended up being a campaign contribution. He is not free to keep it a secret. Not reporting a campaign contribution by either Cohen or Trump is a violation of FEC rules. Cohen could only donate $2700."
"The good news for Trump is that the FEC answers to him." The bad news for Trump is that he may have to answer to Mueller during the sit down. Why did Cohen set up an LLC to pay off Daniels? Where did the money come from?
Comparing this to a Ken Star moment is like comparing apples and oranges. Clinton lied to congress about his affair in the oval office. Trump lied about a $130,0000 payment to a porn star. Trump admitted on tape to assaulting women because "I'm a celebrity and I can do whatever I want." People have resigned in both parties because of far less sexual misconduct. Trump has many shady business deals that Mueller is looking into. Trump makes Clinton look like a boy scout. A blue dress vs shady money and a taped admission that he just does whatever he wants to women?
The payment wasn't classified as a campaign contribution, and it wasn't one.
How could it be? Stormy Daniels was not running a Trump PAC.
Only a blithering idiot would think a payment to a private person from a private person is a campaign contribution. Its just a payment. Nothing illegal about it and its certainly none of the FEC's business. It has nothing to do with the financing of a campaign for Federal election, which is the ONLY domain in which the FEC has any authority at all.
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If it applies, yes.
There is so much to investigate they may need another staff increase.
It's not about the sex, consenting adults can do what they want, and he is a public figure so who could possibly care?
There are some legal questions concerning the pay off. If the news of the affair was suppressed for political purposes, is it to be considered an unreported campaign expense?
If the attorney paid off the woman out of purely altruistic admiration or devotion from the goodness of his heart, did Trump report the gift as income?
It's over 100 grand, a significant amount of money to most citizens.
It is neither a gift to Trump NOR a campaign expense and has nothing to do with the campaign.
It is a payment from a private person to a private person for private and personal reasons (like to shut her big whorish yapper and stop making slanderous claims about other people...that seems to be the most obvious)
Thats because the trump collusion one will occur when the final report comes out, however there have been a ton involving Russians.
You're trying to play word games here. Face reality, this is about Russian involvement in our election. And the thing you are talking about will be the end result if its true. NOT in the middle. But you know that.
On your first point. "Or Not". Until that happens, the party is innocent.
And it is you play word games in the 2nd party. You state "about Russian involvement in our election". That is meaningless. What has meaning is "Did Trump collude illegally with the Russians to win the election?". At this point, there is absolutely no proof or indication that he did. Just a lot of mad Democrats in deep denial.
On your first point. "Or Not". Until that happens, the party is innocent.
And it is you play word games in the 2nd party. You state "about Russian involvement in our election". That is meaningless. What has meaning is "Did Trump collude illegally with the Russians to win the election?". At this point, there is absolutely no proof or indication that he did. Just a lot of mad Democrats in deep denial.
Until it happens they are innocent in a court of law. Meanwhile in reality people form their opinions. Me personally? I think that some member of Trumps team colluded. Trump himself did not. Trump however will be brought down by obstruction, and past real estate deals that violate the law. Thats my best guess.
And Russian involvement is in fact meaningful. In addition it IS relevant to the obstruction charges. The question on obstruction is if there was a intent to obstruct. And that isnt 100% settled for me. Im hoping Mueller will resolve that one way or another.
Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians. His investigation & court testimony led to convictions. How was he colluding with the Russians when he was literally working for the FBI against the Russians? Doesn't make much sense does it?
The payment wasn't classified as a campaign contribution, and it wasn't one. How could it be? Stormy Daniels was not running a Trump PAC.
Only a blithering idiot would think a payment to a private person from a private person is a campaign contribution. Its just a payment. Nothing illegal about it and its certainly none of the FEC's business. It has nothing to do with the financing of a campaign for Federal election, which is the ONLY domain in which the FEC has any authority at all.
It is neither a gift to Trump NOR a campaign expense and has nothing to do with the campaign.
It is a payment from a private person to a private person for private and personal reasons (like to shut her big whorish yapper and stop making slanderous claims about other people...that seems to be the most obvious)
The same can be said of Jon Edwards' donations. Went straight to the mistress and ruled as illegal campaign contributions. Just like Trump's. Exactly like Trump's.
Well, apparently Trump appears drawn to women with "whorish yappers" and guess what? It's not slander if it is true. We have yet to hear Trump deny his affair.
Unfortunately for Donny, in law, precedents matter. Edwards' "blithering idiot" donors did not think they did anything wrong either. But I bet Donny voters would cheer Edwards' indictment.
Trump has been getting away with ethics violations left and right. The buffoon-in-chief is not above the law, and his cult will find this out the hard way.
"...The payments, which covered Hunter’s living, medical and other expenses, are at the heart of the dispute. Prosecutors say that they were campaign contributions because they were meant to prevent Edwards’s 2008 presidential bid from collapsing if the affair was discovered. They say the contributions also exceeded legal limits..."
...She added that she wrote thousands of dollars worth of checks to pay Hunter's expenses. Prosecutors held up copies of several such checks in court Monday, including at least $8,000 for Hunter's California-based spiritual adviser...."
Carter Page was working for the FBI against the Russians. His investigation & court testimony led to convictions. How was he colluding with the Russians when he was literally working for the FBI against the Russians? Doesn't make much sense does it?
Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true. Not even Carter Page himself is making such a preposterous claim.
It's not even a "gate" cause everyone knows that Trump sleeps with prostitutes and cheats on his wife and family on the reg.
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