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Old 02-02-2018, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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So would all the money Bush spent in Iraq.
Obviously, you didn't read the report.

Only 1,900 of the 54,000 bridges are on interstate highways. The remainder are on highways owned by States or counties.

States and counties need to come up with the money to fix their own infrastructures.
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I think some of you are missing the point. Our infrastructure is falling apart and nobody seems as concerned about that as they are with sending money and troops to other countries. Forget whose budget it comes out of - the Federal government could subsidize some of this if they weren't sending it everywhere else.

I'm also of the mind that we need to pour our resources into us for a change. I'm surprised by some of the responses here.
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Old 02-02-2018, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Somewhere Out West
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The problem I have with closing Gitmo is the recidivism rate of those released.
They should at least be afforded a trial. To hold them without charges/trial to me is a grave injustice. If they are guilty, lock them up... if not, release them.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:04 PM
 
Location: USA
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They should at least be afforded a trial. To hold them without charges/trial to me is a grave injustice. If they are guilty, lock them up... if not, release them.
They should do something with them, but if any of them are proven murdering, rapist, slaving ISIS or Al Queda members, they could throw them into a human trash compactor for all I care.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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They should at least be afforded a trial. To hold them without charges/trial to me is a grave injustice. If they are guilty, lock them up... if not, release them.
Then we would be treating them better than our own, though, since we have people locked up for years with no trial date in sight.

I happen to think it's wrong to do it to either group, by the way.
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Old 02-02-2018, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm surprised by some of the responses here.
Perhaps it's because you don't understand the Conservative desire for good government.

If States and counties cannot maintain the 54,107 bridges (out of 56,007) that are structurally deficient and owned by States and counties, then they are not being governed efficiently, and that needs to change.

If business and industry start fleeing States who cannot maintain their infrastructure and relocating to States that do, that's just to bad. The people in those infrastructure-deficient States, being unemployed and severely depressed, can rectify the situation by voting for good efficient government.

It's not up to me, as a resident of Ohio, to make sure that residents in California have jobs and the infrastructure to support business and industry, so that they can have jobs.
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Old 02-02-2018, 09:15 PM
 
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The problem I have with closing Gitmo is the recidivism rate of those released.
Recidivism rate? They haven’t been convicted of a crime.
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Old 02-03-2018, 01:37 PM
 
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Perhaps it's because you don't understand the Conservative desire for good government.

If States and counties cannot maintain the 54,107 bridges (out of 56,007) that are structurally deficient and owned by States and counties, then they are not being governed efficiently, and that needs to change.

If business and industry start fleeing States who cannot maintain their infrastructure and relocating to States that do, that's just to bad. The people in those infrastructure-deficient States, being unemployed and severely depressed, can rectify the situation by voting for good efficient government.

It's not up to me, as a resident of Ohio, to make sure that residents in California have jobs and the infrastructure to support business and industry, so that they can have jobs.
Yeah, but you as an Ohioan might have to actually drive over a California bridge at some point.
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Old 02-03-2018, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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...there’s always money for Afghanistan, operations in Iraq and Syria, aid for Israel and Egypt (and a host of other nations), stationing of troops all over the world, etc

But hey...let’s let the bridges rot!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc...fographic/amp/
and for 24 years under Clinton, Bush and Obama the DOT budget was cut or rose at a minuscule level
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Old 02-04-2018, 05:32 AM
 
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I am for sane fiscal policy, in theory at least.

What does that have to do with the OP which could be summarized as "If not for A, then we could have B."
"in theory at least."

Sounds like some in in academia.

All "theory" and NO real experience in the subject they try to tell the rest of us abort who DO have the experience.
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