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Old 02-05-2018, 10:43 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand the logic behind the narrative that the Democrats, McCain, Steele and the FBI all engaged in this elaborate conspiracy to dig up dirt to undermine Trump but then kept it to themselves until after the election took place.
There wasn't any dirt, so they kept looking. And lying.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand the logic behind the narrative that the Democrats, McCain, Steele and the FBI all engaged in this elaborate conspiracy to dig up dirt to undermine Trump but then kept it to themselves until after the election took place.
The dossier was released to the media the Summer before the election. The suggestion that this information was retained until after the election is flatly false.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Say what you want to, but you are intentionally trying to de-legitimize news sources that dare to contradict your preferred perspective, while insisting that links be provided almost without exception from news sources that are notoriously left leaning and that proactively promote the leftist world view that you support.

That is not an impartial perspective, regardless of how much you want to believe otherwise.
Nope, I gave examples, did not say it had to be from them specifically. Just a real news source, there are lots of them.

You spend time arguing, when you could just post a link.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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They were certain that HC would be elected and did not worry about the consequences.
Sorry. I don't buy that. Particularly after the Comey letter. Sure, Clinton kept up a good face but her polls took an immediate nosedive. Even to me, it was clear she was in trouble. And to her. Remember the infamously canceled fireworks.

A plotting Administration would have sprung SOMETHING during the last 10 days or so.

Instead it was quiet - until AFTER the election. Not even leaks along the way to prepare the public for a possible grand disclosure.

Pre-election, almost all the talk of Russia came from Trump's own mouth. And that of Roger Stone with his Lucifer crap in August.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:48 AM
 
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What Nunes and the Republicans did with that memo was unprecedented. Publicly displaying parts of intelligence process for the world to see and declassifying information that the intelligence community thought should not be declassified is damaging.
The FBI is not part of the "intelligence community". And who cares what the intelligence community thinks, anyway? They work for us, not vice versa. Nunes was cautious and did everything the right way.

The problem for you is that he's exposing extraordinarily serious criminal corruption by people you trust.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Not only did Trump himself crow about how it vindicated him (though how he reached that conclusion is difficult to say), but the dimwitted Don Jr. went on Fox to announce that Nunes' memo was "bit of sweet revenge" for himself and the Trump family.

Discrediting the FBI and undermining the Russia investigation so the the Trump famdamily can get a bit of "sweet revenge."

How does any American support this?
It's simple really. We recognize in Trump something true and right.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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I am still trying to understand the logic behind the narrative that the Democrats, McCain, Steele and the FBI all engaged in this elaborate conspiracy to dig up dirt to undermine Trump but then kept it to themselves until after the election took place.
See, there was this pedophile ring run out of a pizza parlor on the nights they weren't holding satanic rituals. ...

There is no logic to the nonsense that Republicans come up with.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:51 AM
 
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The dossier was released to the media the Summer before the election. The suggestion that this information was retained until after the election is flatly false.
Steele was trying to shop it around but the media refused to touch it. Had there been some grand Administration-orchestrated plot, it WOULD have appeared. The media would have bitten had an Administration official blessed it with a leak.

That did not happen - until AFTER the election.

The Democratic version is that they didn't want the new Administration to bury possible wrongdoings.

Kind of like what is happening now.
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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Sorry. I don't buy that. Particularly after the Comey letter. Sure, Clinton kept up a good face but her polls took an immediate nosedive. Even to me, it was clear she was in trouble. And to her. Remember the infamously canceled fireworks.

A plotting Administration would have sprung SOMETHING during the last 10 days or so.

Instead it was quiet - until AFTER the election. Not even leaks along the way to prepare the public for a possible grand disclosure.

Pre-election, almost all the talk of Russia came from Trump's own mouth. And that of Roger Stone with his Lucifer crap in August.
Sorry. I'm not selling anything except in the absence of evidence which story is consistent?
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:52 AM
 
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It's simple really. We recognize in Trump something true and right.
So what is true that you recognize?
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