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Old 02-17-2018, 03:27 PM
 
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Read what you will into or out of it. It is what it is.
Right. Fake news that isn't even internally consistent.

 
Old 02-17-2018, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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The Russians have been "interfering" with us for almost 100 years, and now it's a "problem" with you deluded leftists? Seems like some selective outrage to me.

I've posted the following link a few times here already, but none of you care to comment on it, so here goes again...The Reality of Red Subversion, by Stephen J. Sniegoski - The Unz Review

The Reality of Red Subversion
The Recent Confirmation of Soviet Espionage in America
Stephen J. Sniegoski • September 1, 2003

".... Today our entire Corporate Media is shrilly proclaiming—on the basis of absolutely no public evidence—that Christian Russia is on the verge of subverting and seizing control of the American government via the election of Donald Trump. It is therefore highly ironic that in the past all of these same media organs had viciously attacked and ridiculed those who presented the strong evidence that Communist Russia actually did come close to subverting and seizing control of the American government during the 1930s and 1940s, never fully acknowledging their grievous error. The massive documentation behind this undeniable historical fact has been provided across numerous scholarly books, but much of it is helpfully summarized in this monograph by Dr. Stephen Sniegoski, which is therefore worth republishing. —Ed...."


"...In an apparent effort to illustrate political simple-mindedness, Carroll Quigley derisively wrote in his noted (at least by the John Birch Society) Tragedy and Hope, that the “same groups who were howling about Soviet espionage in 1948-1955 were also claiming that President Roosevelt expected and wanted Pearl Harbor.”[1] In a previous contribution to The Occidental Quarterly, I dealt with the latter; here I will do some “howling” about the former. According to what until recently has passed as conventional wisdom for the liberal establishment, America in the late 1940s and early 1950s was gripped by a terrible Red scare, a period of anti-Communist hysteria and witch hunts. Malicious “red-baiters” slandered innocent liberals as Communists in order to destroy the reforms of the New Deal and impede peace with the Soviet Union. At most, some of the more “anti-Communist” liberals would concede that there may have been a few Communist subversives, but nothing to justify the terrible anti-Communist overreaction, above all the antics of the demagogic Joe McCarthy. From the 1960s through the 1980s, one of the strongest taboos in American political discourse was the subject of Soviet influence within the United States.


During the 1990s, the release of the Venona documents (see p. 49) by the U.S. government and the partial opening of the Soviet archives forced establishment minds to a reconsideration. Yes, Virginia, there really were Communist spies in the United States during the so-called “McCarthy era.” In fact, it now appears that even the slandered and smeared “red-baiters” of the period were unaware of just how far Soviet Communist subversion had penetrated. It must be added that even during the period of the so-called “witch hunt” there was more than enough evidence to prove the reality of Soviet Communist spying to any objective person. But, of course, if one is going to pass for an “educated,” “respectable” person, objective thinking must be eschewed—it’s simply not a Darwinian survival trait in modern America.


From Lenin onward Soviet Communist leaders have preached the necessity of underground activities, with foreign governments the key target for infiltration. The evidence for this from many countries is overwhelming. Communists in government engaged in espionage and acted to influence policy in a pro-Soviet direction. Many of the individuals engaged in these activities were Communist Party members; others were fellow travelers, who despite their lack of party discipline, sought to advance the interests of Soviet Communism...." cont..
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Just ****ing get over it, Hillary LOST, the Soviets fell in the 1990's, and what's LEFT over is all you deranged "progressives" yelling Russia, Russia, Russia with your hair on fire.


You people are looking more pathetic every day you keep pushing this bull****! November is coming, and STILL you have no campaign platform of ideas other than your conspiracies....pathetic!
Anyone who quotes the John Birch Society has lost all credibility in the eyes of people who can reason. Sorry.

We'll find out who is deranged when the next wave of indictments is unsealed. Anyone who may have been communicating with them is now, because of the indictments, open to a charge of treason.
 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:38 PM
 
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Demoralized? When Robert Mueller is in the process of proving us absolutly correct about the Russians over the protests of the O'Reilly/Hannity/Fox/Alex Jones/Roger Stone/Conservative Tree House/ZeroHedge crowd? Russian interference in the election has been proven. Now we wait to see whether there was any coordination between the indicted Russians and any member of the Trump campaign, which will mean that there absolutely was collusion.

Hardly demoralized. But we are mad as hell, being Americans who care about what happens to our country.

You should join us.
Demoralized?

Republicans are retiring in droves.

A Democrat was just voted in as a senator in Alabama, of all places.

Randy Bryce, a union ironworker with a wonderful walrus mustache, stands a good chance of kicking Paul Ryan out of Congress.

I don't know anybody who is demoralized.

But then, I don't hang out with Republicans.

 
Old 02-17-2018, 07:42 PM
 
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We'll find out who is deranged when the next wave of indictments is unsealed. Anyone who may have been communicating with them is now, because of the indictments, open to a charge of treason.
Yep.

Though I suspect the charges will be obstruction of justice, money laundering, RICO, ...
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:01 AM
 
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Damned left-wing FBI brass...
LOL, this is trumps guy ,he already got rid on one now he has to get rid of another one.Two in a year trump is on a roll.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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This is your opinion. You hate Trump. Case closed.
Get back to us when there is some "proof".
This is the part you that goes over your furry little head. Realizing that Russia is trying to destablize our nation, and trying to undermine our election system, and favoring a divisive candidate like Trump who will do their dirty work for them without having to lift a finger - has nothing to do with "hating" Trump. That would be a foolish waste of emotional energy. Oppose Trump at every level? Absolutely. Point out every day that he is an egotistical megalomaniac who is by far the greatest threat to our security and future prosperity? Absolutely.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:22 AM
 
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Read what you will into or out of it. It is what it is.
I at least read beyond the headline. You should try reading articles you link to before buying into a false headline.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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I hope the Russians wise up and start blackmailing the **** out of the CIA and the deep state for taking the blame for all this dirty work they're alleged to be doing.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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I at least read beyond the headline. You should try reading articles you link to before buying into a false headline.
Thanks. I may have to try that one day.
 
Old 02-18-2018, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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I hope the Russians wise up and start blackmailing the **** out of the CIA and the deep state for taking the blame for all this dirty work they're alleged to be doing.
How an you blackmail the Deep State when it doesn't exist? That does not compute.
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