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I'm not sure I see your point or the relevance of a 4-year-old political separatist gang attack, classified as an act of terrorism.
They killed about 30 people (varying reports on fatalities). Think how many they could have killed if they all had automatic weapons. There were 10 of them--do the math.
Why would anyone use this as an argument not to create our own laws specific to the US?
I'm not sure I see your point or the relevance of a 4-year-old political separatist gang attack, classified as an act of terrorism.
O.K. nothing wrong with wanting to clarify things.
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They killed about 30 people (varying reports on fatalities). Think how many they could have killed if they all had automatic weapons.
Or explosives? You will have to note why you picked auto weapons though as outside of the military I'm not sure when the last person was killed with an automatic weapon.
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Why would anyone use this as an argument not to create our own laws specific to the US?
My argument is people who are intent to kill will kill. That we should address the reasons people decide to kill. Your argument is one where you believe we can lessen the number of people who are killed once people decide to kill.
Mental illness is generally a progressive problem. If you can address it early in it's development you can in many cases slow down or stop it's progression. There is nothing to suggest that restrictions on one form of killing will stop people from killing. Other forms are just as deadly.
I don't want to trade guns for explosives. I want to address the issue before it ever gets that far. Do you have an issue with that?
Or explosives? You will have to note why you picked auto weapons though as outside of the military I'm not sure when the last person was killed with an automatic weapon.
The Las Vegas shooter used bump-stocks to utilize his semi-auto ARs as automatic.
He didn't have an automatic but are we now arguing that when something is restricted that people will find work arounds?
Let me try again: he used bump-stocks to achieve automatic rate of fire from a semi-automatic firearm. He took the most deadly weapon he could buy, and made it even deadlier.
Let me try again: he used bump-stocks to achieve automatic rate of fire from a semi-automatic firearm. He took the most deadly weapon he could buy, and made it even deadlier.
So I will ask again. Are we now arguing that when something is restricted that people will find work arounds?
So I will ask again. Are we now arguing that when something is restricted that people will find work arounds?
I am not arguing anything, I only pointed out what the LV shooter did. His rifles were not restricted, and nor were the bomb-stocks. It is clear the mass-killers pick the most deadly weapon then can get, and their choice is the AR-15. If full-auto light machine guns were available, he wold have used that.
I am not arguing anything, I only pointed out what the LV shooter did. His rifles were not restricted, and nor were the bomb-stocks. It is clear the mass-killers pick the most deadly weapon then can get, and their choice is the AR-15. If full-auto light machine guns were available, he wold have used that.
A bomb in the lobby could have been every bit as dangerous.
But the killings will be more frequent and the body count will be much higher in a nation that proliferates and glorifies guns - especially high-capacity assault rifles - like candy.
I am so sick of conservatives using the false argument that just because we can't prevent EVERY killing we should do NOTHING while the absurdly high rate of carnage continues unabated.
Your defense of the status quo means you are part of the problem and partly responsible.
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