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Old 03-05-2018, 07:04 PM
 
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He is not on trial. There is no crime he is accused of. He cannot be detained against his will. That would be a violation of his civil rights.
You TRULY do not understand what is occurring.

The crime will be contempt of court. He CAN be detained and imprisoned for that. And the contempt arises from refusing to show up.

He absolutely can show up and plead the fifth. But thats not the discussion either.

Why can't you just talk about the topic? What are you so afraid of here?
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:04 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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If you have immunity you cannot refuse to answer the questions posed by the Grand Jury, unless you want to be held in comntempt and jailed. Google it.
Jailed for a procedural infraction? I doubt it unless you want to wind up like the judge that incarcerated the reporter for not revealing her sources.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:05 PM
 
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This is a Criminal Grand Jury. I think you are mistaken in your analysis.
If Nunberg ignores the subpoena, he’ll likely be found in civil contempt. The punishment is usually jail and/or fines. I hope he gets both if he ignores the subpoena.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You never give up your rights... They can only be taken by force.

You can force me to speak?
I guess water boarding is next?
You will either speak, or have a reason to take the 5th, or you will be held in contempt. Force is acceptable if necessary.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:06 PM
 
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Collusion isn't a crime
No it is not, but all of the stuff around it is. Conspiracy to commit computer crimes for example. Conspiracy covers a ton of things around collusion when the person or country you collude with commit a crime.

But again...not the topic here. Why the non stop attempts to derail it?
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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You TRULY do not understand what is occurring.

The crime will be contempt of court. He CAN be detained and imprisoned for that. And the contempt arises from refusing to show up.

He absolutely can show up and plead the fifth. But thats not the discussion either.

Why can't you just talk about the topic? What are you so afraid of here?
You cannot be held in contempt for exercising your 5th amendment rights! Period!

A judge cannot even force a person indicted of a crime to testify. and here you are saying a summons has more power than an indictment? that is ridiculous.!
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:07 PM
 
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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You cannot be held in contempt for exercising your 5th amendment rights! Period!

A judge cannot even force a person indicted of a crime to testify. and here you are saying a summons is the exact same? that is ridiculous.!
We'll find out Friday morning just what can be done, won't we?
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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You cannot be held in contempt for exercising your 5th amendment rights! Period!

A judge cannot even force a person indicted of a crime to testify. and here you are saying a summons is the exact same? that is ridiculous.!
Thats not the topic Bentbow. Read more of the responses. Everyone agrees he can plead the 5th.

What he cant do is refuse to respond at all.

Im done arguing with you. You're simply refusing to discuss reality or facts here.
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Old 03-05-2018, 07:08 PM
 
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Jailed for a procedural infraction? I doubt it unless you want to wind up like the judge that incarcerated the reporter for not revealing her sources.
Yes, jail and/or fines are usual punishments for contemnors. Just because you live in a fantasy world that doesn’t conform to anything that resembles reality, a world of reality still exists out here. Jail and/or fines are some of the consequences Nunberg can expect if he ignores the subpoena.
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